You are a loser!!!!!
We live in a great country that offers each of us great opportunities.
We have lived with peace and prosperity. Every day I offer thanks for
being blessed with our society that allows us to raise our children
without fear of civil wars, food shortages, and widespred disease.
You are a loser!!!!!
Dear Sir:
I don't mean to be rude but --
Where have you been?
I have removed your name from my list (definitely not a SAFAN member). However, I feel compelled to make several points which I
"double dog dare you to prove wrong!":
(The Triple Dog Dare Is Rarely Used)
1. I probably am a loser but I am, at least, on the winning team.
2. Why don't you ask your children a few questions about this country. You will probably find that they don't have a clue about the basics. This is not the America you grew up in. The federal government NOW is more like the U.S.S.R. than what the Constitution intended. In fact, the Communist Manifesto is the closest document to the way the united States is being run (yes that is the correct capitalization).
3. Glad you don't have to worry about wars? The SAME people who brought you the Civil War, the War of 1812, World War I, World War II, Korea and Vietnam are about to bring you World War III. They planned everything since WW I in the 1860's.
4. Am I a loser because I say you should stop paying extortion? The federal governenment has committed massive fraud on a scale so unbelievable that no movie company would find it credible enough to produce! The fact is, the 16th amendment was never ratified, even if it were it didn't change a thing, "income" is NOT wages and salaries and only the people living in DC or the territories were ever subject to it to start with. Your money does not go to pay for government programs -- other taxes do that -- it goes to pay FRAUDULENT INTEREST TO A FRAUDULENT PRIVATELY OWNED BANK WHICH HAS NEVER BEEN AUDITED. The IRS doesn't even tell you the correct form to fill out (its NOT the 1040)! They don't even legally have the right to seize property. They use extortion on us and if they don't get enough they come in and OPENLY STEAL anything else they want.
5. Want to bring the "war" closer to home? There are now SEVERAL MILLION FOREIGN TROUPS in this country. Urban assault raids are being conducted by joint military / police units in major cities across the country in direct violation of the Constitution. Innocent American Citizens are being killed every day by fully armed thugs who break into homes at 2:00 in the morning, shoot first and ask questions later. Many of these have been killed half asleep in their beds because 20 ARMED MEN WITH GUNS BLAZING were sent in as a result of a false tip.
6. Got a great government? There are hundreds of scandal pages on the Web on Bill Clinton alone. Bob Barr - R GA is now preparing impeachment papers charging Bill Clinton with a host of charges including TREASON. It may well be that the majority of Congress ends up coming up on the same charges. In fact, by omission, every single member of Congress has participated in a plan to defraud and enslave the American People. Of course, they will probably claim to have had their heads in the sand too.
7. Got a great framework for the country? The Constitution has been SUSPENDED since 1933. The Bill Of Rights today is a JOKE. Why is your government concerned about people burning the flag when today the FLAG STANDS FOR NOTHING except betrayal. You should read the NEW Declaration Of Independence. You should read the New Constitution written for America. You should read the de facto contract with American Serfs (I mean Citizens).
8. Leaders with CHARACTER? You should find out about the Illuminati, the Luciferian Conspiracy, the Council On Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the real goals of the United Nations, etc. All this information is available freely on the Web to anyone with an open mind.
9. Great opportunities? The middle class is being crushed to death by the Conspirators who are forcing the merger of all small companies into larger ones. There is only "apparent competition" in most major industries because the leading players all have interlocking directorates! There are many industries today in which it is NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE to even enter the market, much less compete. The National ID law is attempting to make it law that you have to have a National ID and that you can not be hired without having your potential employer scan your card and get an OK from Big Brother.
10. A great country? ABSOLUTELY NOT! This country has turned into a police state. I may be a loser but I am one loser who KNOWS that I am putting my LIFE ON THE LINE to speak out and try to make a difference. Is that what you call freedom of speech?
11. A country who hires people to spy on Citizens and encourage them to break laws is not a very honorable country. Neither is a country who traffics drugs to raise money for causes they can't reveal to the American public. Neither is a country which props up dictatorships in the name of fighting Communism in one part of the world while SUPPORTING COMMUNISM in another. Neither is a country which helps blow up a federal building so they can crack down on the militias.
12. Peace? Ask the people at Waco. Ask the people at Ruby Ridge. Ask the people in Oklahoma City. Ask the thousands if not millions of Citizens rotting in jails because they were not a part of the "official drug dealer's ring". The only way to have peace in this country today is to be a sheep and take whatever the government dishes out. There is no peace for people who want freedoms and liberties guaranteed by the Constitution. There is a wonderful retired lady in Tennesee who helped start an organization to put an end to federal abuses. When we have to call Patriots out of retirement as our LAST LINE OF DEFENSE, is this peace?
13. Food shortages? All that has to happen for us to have food shortages of unimagined levels is for Bill Clinton to declare (he can do it by himself) a national emergency. He might even get help in actually staging an emergency for us. Then he can put Executive Orders into effect which allow him to SEIZE ALL FOOD, ALL FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION, ALL FORMS OF COMMUNICATION, etc.. It also effectively allows him to SEIZE all the people by forcing them into work details and shipping them all over the country, even separating children from their parents when in the best interest of the "STATE".
Try explaining that one to your children!
14. Did I upset you with all that "God / Devil" stuff? You don't believe Satan is a real being with real powers who is working with his private army and the most powerful people on the face of the earth to make the earth his kingdom? You don't believe the ultimate goal is to have every LIVE human worshiping Satan?
Well that's OK. It really doesn't matter what you believe any more than it matters what I believe. HOWEVER, THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH BELIEVE IT! That's what's important!
15. To Whom do you offer thanks? Could it be the God of Abraham? If it is, I think you should stop talking and START LISTENING. I may be wrong but I believe that I am IN GOD'S WILL and am acting at His Instruction. I pray daily for guidance. If I am wrong, then I am also completely delusional. Of course, as you said twice, I am a loser.
Thanks for your thoughtful response. If you can prove me factually wrong on any of these issues, please let me know. If you are even mildly interested in searching for the truth, click
Sincerely,
Terry W. Stough
(770) 641-9042
I have to disagree with you. We can't ever get people to agree who
or what God is, nor can we even get them all on the same page. Two things
split people more than anything else. One is Politics, and the other is
Relegion.
Sorry, but I think that it is going to take bullets. Remember that
of all the wars ever fought, most were because of one mans beliefe trying to
be pushed on another.
I do wish you were right, but Jesus is going to have to unite the
people, he is the only one I know that has to power.
We don't have to agree on who God is. We only have to agree on who the enemy is. We have to also agree that the Conspiracy is and always has been run by a small group whose power comes from propaganda, threats, etc.. They can not stand the LIGHT.
Why in the world would you want to have a battle involving you and people who believe like you do and the Conspiracy and all the power they have under their control. Why not get the People to wake up and get on the right side? Why kill people who have been deceived into believing they are on the right side?
Why would you not want to FIRST get everyone you can on OUR side and then deal with the rest who refuse to listen to TRUTH?
Terry
It is now 3:15 AM. I did get a little sleep but I am up again! I just now checked my messages and found that you had called. You can reach me most of the time at the number you called, especially this week. If I don't answer, I will call you back.
With regard to your being hesitant to talk over the phone, let me again state that our Movement has to be totally in the open. If what you want to talk about is RIGHT, then you should be willing to shout it from the highest building! *
(If it is WRONG. I don't even want to hear it!)
Examples: I believe 100% that stopping the payment of extortion money you don't even owe under the law is not only RIGHT it is the only Patriotic thing to do. I believe that challenging every federal requirement is not only your RIGHT but your RESPONSIBILITY TO FUTURE GENERATIONS.
Having said that, let me also tell you that by now, you can rest assured that 100% of my communications in all forms are being intercepted. The Conspiracy is looking for ANYTHING they can use against us. You should feel the same way about your communications! But please bear in mind in all things you do and say:
If It's RIGHT,
It Can Stand The LIGHT!
(That sounds like a Jessie Jackson quote!)
Again, what we WANT is the LIGHT. We want it to shine so brightly that there is no place for EVIL to hide. The Conspirators are like the mythical vampires. They have to do their work under cover of darkness. The LIGHT destroys them!
Look where God has led us so far! I have been lead to push not for people to join together and sing patriotic songs, etc. or stock up on weapons, but to write "IN YOUR FACE", BLUNT and TO THE POINT letters, etc. to Congress (We can't afford for them to miss the point!). My last letter, etc. probably used the "T-Word" (Treason - did you get the "Committee To Impeach" E-Mail yesterday sent by one of our "correspondents"? If not I can forward it to you) dozens of times. What happens? After I send the letter, I get the "Committee To Impeach" E-Mail and it says repeats the fact that Bob Barr R-GA is preparing impeachment papers for Clinton and that the MAJORITY OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY MAY BE GUILTY. Unfortunately, I don't think the Democrats have a monopoly on treason by a long shot!
Imagine the members of Congress who are trying to get Barr to "cool his jets" getting hundreds or (I pray) thousands of E-Mails, faxes and letters from their constituents which say ".....Treason ..... Treason ..... Treason ..... Treason..... Treason .....Treason .....". Would you be just a bit nervous if you had taken ANY PART IN THE CONSPIRACY and looking for a way to save your assets? (Do you see how important this "IN YOUR FACE" communication is?! ! You have sent your faxes, etc. haven't you?
If not, when do you plan to do it?
What about those of you who are getting a copy of this response?
We can send these "IN YOUR FACE" letters, etc. without any reservation because they contain IRREFUTABLE FACTS (If you read them carefully, the reader is never ACCUSED of anything. They are just told the facts and asked questions. The only cold hard fact about TREASON is that "SOMEBODY IS GUILTY" because TREASON has definitely occurred!)
Thanks for letting me be of help.
By the way, making the decision to take a stand is the really HARD
part. Once you have said With The Power And Guidance Of God,
Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death", it's a GREAT RELIEF!
Then you know that as long as you do your best
and do what you prayerfully know is RIGHT, the rest is in
God's hands You have to know that if this
means that you are persecuted in any way for any reason,
you will be rewarded 1,000 fold at
a time when THE REWARDS LAST FOREVER!
That reminds me of a quote by a famous artist.
I can't remember which one. In his later years,
he had extremely painful arthritis.
Every brush stroke was agony.
But he continued to paint. Asked why he would paint
despite the pain, he said:
Your Brother In Christ,
Terry W. Stough
(770) 641-9042
* On the subject of "shouting from the highest building",
God gave me a "Vampire Killer" of an idea during the
sleep I got last night! If you are from the South,
do you remember the signs "See Rock City"?
The owners of Rock City built it "on a shoestring"
and had very little money for advertising.
What they did was to offer to paint the roofs of
barns for farmers for "FREE" if they would
just let them put the words "See Rock City"
on the roof. As a result, for a very small cost,
they got THOUSANDS of HUGE signs advertising their attraction.
Could we not do the same? Why not give it a try! Here are some ideas:
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Stop All
Federal
Abuses NOW!
XXX-XXXX
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Let My
People Go!
XXX-XXXX
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Give Us Liberty -
XXX-XXXX
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Give Back
America!
XXX-XXXX
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Resist The
Conspiracy!
XXX-XXXX
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What Kind Of
Country Are You
Leaving To
Your Children?
XXX-XXXX
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The United Nations
Wants Everything!
Stop Them Now!
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What
Constitution?
XXX-XXXX
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What
Bill Of Rights?
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Where's The
Republic?
XXX-XXXX
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Whose Side
Is Congress On?
XXX-XXXX
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Do it! Send Pictures!
TERRY
OUTSTANDING!
IF I WERE NOT SO TIRED I WOULD WRITE ALOT MORE. GOING TO EDIT MY MAIL AND GO TO BED EARLY BUT I WILL BE BACK TO YOU OVER THE WEEKEND. WE REALLY THINK ALIKE. IT'S VERY VERY REFRESHING!
ONE HEART
ONE MIND
ONE COUNTRY
ONE CONSTITUTION
GOD BLESS US EVERYONE
AND THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH WE STAND!
CAROL
THE FOLLOWING WAS A RESPONSE TO A PHONE MESSAGE. THE MESSAGE INDICATED THAT
THE PERSON WAS RELUCTANT TO SPEAK ON THE PHONE. SINCE HE HAD E-MAILED ME AND
I HAD HIS EMAIL ADDRESS, I WROTE HIM BACK TO SPEAK TO THE ISSUE OF TIMIDITY
IN DOING WHAT YOU KNOW IS RIGHT.
The pain is temporary.
The beauty lasts forever!.
I look forward to working with you and look forward to hearing from you
soon.
NOTE: THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN REFINED AND DOCUMENTED.
The tax that is collected does not go to pay for laws that are passed
by congress, but does go to remove excess money in the economy to prevent
what happened in the continental Congress when there was too much money in
the economy and it became worthless. Each time that taxes are not payed
there is an increased amount of money in the economy pushing us closer to
the" Not worh a continental"
My response to this is as follows:
Please reconsider your position. Why is there too much money in the economy in the first place? I would submit to you that the following are the reasons:
1. Government spends more than it takes in. They are encouraged to do so by the Conspiracy who profits from the debt and achieves greater control.
That's the whole list.
If millions of Americans stop paying taxes they have to also demand that the TRILLIONS of dollars spent on unconstitutional programs comes to an abrupt halt.
I would not hesitate for a second to say that if the economy goes in the dumps during our battle, the fault lies squarely at the feet of the Conspiracy. They control the money and they can put ever how much they want into circulation.
I have already prepared myself for these kinds of falsehoods from the Conspiracy. What they would have us believe is that ANYTHING WE DO is counterproductive. Well I won't buy it. I would rather go through a DEPRESSION (caused by the Conspiracy trying to keep us under their control) and emerge FREE than to have a great economy right up until the time the tanks roll into town.
Don't believe the disinformation they are passing out. They want to blame the problems on the Patriots when they are the cause them ALL.
Non Carborundum Illegitimi!
Sincerely,
Terry W. Stough
Subject: A Test
The LAPD, The FBI, and the CIA are all trying to prove that they are the
best at apprehending criminals. The President decides to give them a test.
He releases a rabbit into a forest and has each of them try to catch it.
The CIA goes in. They place animal informants throughout the forest.
They question all plant and mineral witnesses. After three months of
extensive investigations they conclude that rabbits do not exist.
Then the FBI goes in. After two weeks with no leads they burn the
forest, killing everything in it, including the rabbit, and they make no
apologies. The rabbit had it coming.
Then the LAPD goes in. They come out two hours later with a badly beaten
raccoon. The raccoon is yelling: "Okay! Okay! I'm a rabbit! I'm a rabbit!"
How could I respond to THAT wisdom!
The fourteenth amendment was ratified without a
quorum of congress. If this is so how does the
Supreme Court use it as a tool to require the states to
obey their rule. Maybe because they have a bigger
stick. The war between the states in 1861 was fought
over Liberty not slavery. If you believe otherwise then
you are believing the spin that the Socialists want you
to believe. It is part of their divide and conquer
program.
Dear Terry,
My reaction to this is that the Federal Reserve NOTES issued in this
country are not worth "a continental' now. It matters little how much or
how little of it is out there, it is all worthless and is not 'money'. I
totally fail to understand any of the senders statements. Excuse me for
saying this but the writer seems to missing a few 'links' in my opinion.
I want to thank you for putting into solid wording my thoughts. I request
your permission to add your page as a link on my Web Page.
http://www.nwlink.com/~idzrus/index/html
If you go there please read Grannys two cents worth. That is my statement.
You are in my prayers and I agree with you that your statement of how to
fight this battle is the only way. Guns will not do it for the reasons you
have mentioned. I fight against any infringment of the 2nd Amendment but I
also understand that is not how I must fight the war. It is, as I always
state to all that will listen, necessary to bring each battle to the base
line. It is a spiritual war and each of us better be sure we have chosen
to fight on the side of God Almighty and not on Lucifers. Every piece of
legislation can be reduced to that base line. It is just that few, very
few, are willing to do that.
You are a loser!!!!!
We live in a great country that offers each of us great opportunities.
We have lived with peace and prosperity. Every day I offer thanks for
being blessed with our society that allows us to raise our children
without fear of civil wars, food shortages, and widespred disease.
You are a loser!!!!!
You are a loser!!!!!
We live in a great country that offers each of us great opportunities.
We have lived with peace and prosperity. Every day I offer thanks for
being blessed with our society that allows us to raise our children
without fear of civil wars, food shortages, and widespred disease.
You are a loser!!!!!
I have to disagree with you. We can't ever get people to agree who
or what God is, nor can we even get them all on the same page. Two things
split people more than anything else. One is Politics, and the other is
Relegion.
Sorry, but I think that it is going to take bullets. Remember that
of all the wars ever fought, most were because of one mans beliefe trying to
be pushed on another.
I do wish you were right, but Jesus is going to have to unite the
people, he is the only one I know that has to power.
We don't need to reach far back into another century to find
proof that the People are sovereign. In a Department of Justice
manual revised in the year 1990 (Document No. M-230), the meaning
of American Citizenship was described with these eloquent and
moving words by the Commissioner of Immigration and
Naturalization: "You are no longer a subject of a government!"
The Meaning of American Citizenship
Commissioner of Immigration and Naturalization
Today you have become a citizen of the United States of
America. You are no longer an Englishman, a Frenchman, an
Italian, a Pole. Neither are you a hyphenated-American -- a
Polish-American, an Italian-American. You are no longer a
subject of a government. Henceforth, you are an integral
part of this Government -- a free man -- a Citizen of the
United States of America.
This citizenship, which has been solemnly conferred on
you, is a thing of the spirit -- not of the flesh. When you
took the oath of allegiance to the Constitution of the
United States, you claimed for yourself the God-given
unalienable rights which that sacred document sets forth as
the natural right of all men.
You have made sacrifices to reach this desired goal.
We, your fellow citizens, realize this, and the warmth of
our welcome to you is increased proportionately. However,
we would tincture it with friendly caution.
As you have learned during these years of preparation,
this great honor carries with it the duty to work for and
make secure this longed-for and eagerly-sought status.
Government under our Constitution makes American citizenship
the highest privilege and at the same time the greatest
responsibility of any citizenship in the world.
The important rights that are now yours and the duties
and responsibilities attendant thereon are set forth
elsewhere in this manual. It is hoped that they will serve
as a constant reminder that only by continuing to study and
learn about your new country, its ideals, achievements, and
goals, and by everlastingly working at your citizenship can
you enjoy its fruits and assure their preservation for
generations to follow.
May you find in this Nation the fulfillment of your
dreams of peace and security, and may America, in turn,
never find you wanting in your new and proud role of Citizen
of the United States.
[Basic Guide to Naturalization and Citizenship]
[Immigration and Naturalization Service]
[U.S. Department of Justice]
[page 265, emphasis added]
[As quoted in "The Federal Zone: Cracking the Code of Internal
Revenue," electronic seventh edition, Chapter 11: Sovereignty]
Admitting that didn't know your name until yesterday, it is still my
pleasure to see my mailbox choked with your material. :-)
The "voluntary contributions" post woke me up, this one is dead on,
and "Letting Right See the Light" is another gem. Thanks.
Where are you? Here is a request: jam the best of these concepts into
a thousand words or less, so I can include you in this month's
Freedom House newsletter, and include a snail mail for a
complimentary issue. Would you? Could you?
Also, we need to discuss voluntary non-compliance. Your post is the
first on the subject that satisfies the moral, legal, and responsible
requirements for a 20th century "tea party." Quite honestly, I was
praying Saturday and yesterday for God to send an idea for an
equivalent. Lo and behold, your post showed up from another friend as
"a good idea." (I must have mass deleted the original SAFAN copy.)
Why is it no one replies when I run newspaper ads
offering 100 pounds of money to each person who
just describes the money that government spends?
Why would I make such an offer?
Well, the Fed says their system "works only with credit".
I can send a photocopy of the Fed's statement to 100 patriots
and 95 to 99 of them would still believe that government spends
money. Everybody wants money but nobody will describe the
money that government spends if I offer 1000 pounds of it to them.
Government is omnipotent because its victims will do ANYTHING
and EVERYTHING for checks that transfer ownership of absolutely
nothing. Worse yet, anybody who effectively resists communism
will be ridiculed and punished by the parents, siblings and survivors
of those 108,000 Americans who died in Korea and Vietnam under
the pretext of "halting communist expansion" ---while lawyers and
lawyer-judges were enforcing all ten planks of Marx's Communist
Manifesto HERE in the USA..
"My people perish for lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6
Pat
How long could the New World Odor last if all Libertarians, all Birchers
OR
all members of the NRA could show why the New World Odor needs babies
and retirees dead? Their spokesman, Robert McNamara said: "There are
many ways to make the death rate increase" Americans must be disarmed
before too many learn why any sure cure for cancer must be suppressed.
After reading this, I am of the impression that you live in a bubble. There are several reasons that people are concerned about others eavesdropping on conversations, not even considering the moral and privacy issues, among them being:
1. one or more individuals may be discussing something illegal of unlawful,
2. one or more individuals may be discussing material of a sensitive nature,
3. one or more individuals may be discussing matters of strategy, which if revealed, could compromise a lawful and legal act. In this case a response. Basically, "turning up your hand of cards" before you are willing to play them.
Only a fool would broadcast their legal and lawful strategy to the opposition!
Do you mind if I tell some others about your web page? This is the best
way I know how to get the word out....Nice talkiing to you. Let me know
if I can be of any assistance to you.....Scott
I guessed that you are talking about the American Resistance Movement?
I feel that many of us tried to work "too closely" with the system - and
that is the reason we did not succeed. We really DID NOT get in their
face and SPLATTER IT ALL out in the open.
I don't believe that I would have written the letter to the President in such
strong language even 6 months ago, but I realize now that we have
gained NOTHING by being nice to them - and asking POLITELY that
they do something!!! Just charge them with TREASON and move on.
I know that is the kind of fellow you are and always has been. I am
not going to give up simply because I KNOW who is going to win in the
end - and I most certainly don't want to fold and join the WRONG SIDE
of this battle. I know which side I belong on - and that is the way it's
going to be until the end. You know it is a battle between Good and
Evil - or better put the Almighty God of Heaven (always put this on the
end) and Satan (the God of this Earth .for now). That is the ONLY
choice we have....and ALL of us is going to have to make it QUICK.
Terry - Don is a great patriot out in Stockton, CA. He just tells it the
way he sees it. He has been working a long time at this - and I think
your postings have encouraged him and others to keep pushing!!!!
COPY OF E-MAIL FORWARDED TO ME TO WHICH I DID NOT RESPOND:
I am glad that some have woke up. Problem is, that they are all
starting down the same road that alot of us have already walked. We have
gone that direction already, and look at where it has gotten us today.
Klintonski and her hubby in office for 4 more, with bore Gore at her
side. Criminals running the cabinet, mouth pieces talking overseas for him,
and making lots of deals, without OUR approval. Government getting larger
and larger, aid for persons who REALLY REALLY need it being cut back. Out
taxes going out of control, our schools teaching crap and UN/NWO socialism,
our cops going to jail, while criminals are sueing the cops. Illegal aliens
ignoring our boarders, and then sueing the agents for trying to protect the
borders, not to mention that now the Border Patrol is taking fire from
across the border, individualism is being taught as bad, and socialism (ie,
working together as one) is good. And thats just the tip of the iceberg.
Folks, our military is being giving to other nations, our cops going
to jail, or murderers are not being put to death. The military is begining
to be used againt its citizens. The police uniforms are starting to resemble
the old Nazi SS uniforms, and they look more like soldiers than police. Kids
have no freedom of speech in school. People are loosing their freedom or
speech around the nation. Gun control, tabaccoo control, Enviromental
control, air quality control, smog checks, finger printing, eyeball reading,
finger prints mandatory on Calif. drivers license, and on and on.
I hate to say it folks, and I don't want to be know as a rebel
rouser, or one of the hated militia types, or a racist, or right winger, or
whatever label anyone wants to put on me. The fact of the matter is, we are
all walking over the same ground, again and again and again.......and where
has it gotten us?? NO WHERE !!!! We are worse off now, then we were 5
years ago. We have tighter controls on us now than ever before. We have more
restricting laws than ever before.
And some say we are winning the battle ????
If you believe that, then I have some great gold mines in Mexico
that I would love to sell you, CHEAP !!!
The point is, we are not winning anything. And we won't either,
until someone, somewhere gets the balls to stand up and say, "OK, we are not
going to win, unless we are willing to put our lives on the line"! And
folks, thats the size of it. Unless we stand up, with of guns, as one, ready
to fight and die if need be, then we will never regain the Constitution. And
we eill be forced to live as slaves under this tyrannical government.
You think not??? Look at the military. They are at the lowest levels
since prior the WWII. Wonder why? The stock market is going higher and
higher, like crazy? What do you think will happen if it falls? A computer
will stop it from hitting bottom, and keep millions of people who just went
broke form rioting. I think not.
Wake up people. Don't any of you have the guts to stand like our
forefather before us? If they saw us now, they would line us up and shoot us
as cowards. Do you have a back bone? Or instead is there a yellow streek
running up your back?
Yes, I said it. It is time to overthrow this tyrannical government.
Plain and simple. Get your weapons, gather you fellow patriots, friends,
family members, neighbors, and who ever else has the guts to stand, and lets
take this country back by force.
I don't want to fight, and I sure don't want to die, but there comes
a time, when reality has to be faced. You best face it now. You can lie to
yourself all you want, but you will not win in the polictical arena, you
can't, you don't have the money, power, backing, and the deck is stacked
against you. Why waste your time walking the same path, so many have waked
before?
Why waste the effort. Put forth an effort to regain this country.
Put all you mind, body and soul into the fight. Put up or shut up.
I don't have the answers, but I can at least read between the lines.
We are loosing. Plain and simple. We can't win this battle of politians, we
don't have the money or power.
What we do have, is the second amendment. And the purpose that the
second amendment was put in there, was for reasons just as this. Just like
today. When a government turn tyrannical, and does not represent the people,
then its up to us to overthrow that fovernment and start anew.
Read the papers that this nation was founded under. Pray to God for
guidence, and then do it.
Gather up, unite, fight, and be victorious.
Terry,
Here's one in your neck of the woods.
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>http://www.boortz.com/june12.htm
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>Neal Boortz is a talk-radio announcer here in the Atlanta, GA
>area, and he's also a practicing attorney. His politics are
>self-admitted Libertarian.
>
>Thought this would be good to send out US wide. Covington, GA
>is a little town east of Atlanta where the City Council has lost
>their minds, as well as the citizens for allowing this.
>
>I would urge you to visit the Neal boortz web site to prove it
>to yourself, then spread this message as far and as wide as you
>can.
>
>Roger Cravens
>Atlanta, GA
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>>Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 17:18:41 -0400
>>From: nocompromise
Terry,
I agree with most all of your actions regarding fighting the enemy and am
corresponding with local, state and federal officials regarding this all of
the time. Piercing the electonic and procedural shells/defenses that our
elected representatives have built around themselves is a difficult thing to
do. In most cases, they do not want to hear. Those that do however, can
make tremendous differences.
My major exception to your efforts regards the issue of the 2nd Amendment
and how active people should be in that regard. I believe that the 2nd
amendment was placed in the Bill of Rights for the following reasons :
1. To keep over intrusive government from ever thinking of subjugating the
citizenry.
That's the entire list. Self defense and hunting were taken for granted
then. I believe this was inspired and that it has worked. I believe that
it is one of the only things standing between us and tyranny at this moment.
Therefore, I believe we must educate citizens to this reality and urge them
to maintain an adequate supply of weapons and ammunition (according to the
dictates of their own hearts as to what is appropriate in this regard). I
want Bill Clinton, Janet Reno, the Bilderbergers, the Council on Foreign
Relations, etc. to know that there are tens of millions of Americans armed
and willing to fight for the liberties in armed confrontation should it come
to that ... and I pray it does not. But, if I am honest with myself and
you, my own personal belief is that it almost unavoidable will, and I am
looking to God in Heaven to miraculously help us avoid it, or to
miraculously assist us when the time comes. Either case requires that we do
all of the other things you are suggesting now, such that we will be worthy
of His blessings in either case.
So, I do take issue with your statements that we can not raise an army large
enough. By urging folks to be aware of the final defense the 2nd amendment
represents, and by urging them to quietly prepare in that regard, we create
a silent, latent army which can arise should the circumstances warrrant it.
The fact is, with tens of millions armed and willing to lay down their all
for liberty, no army created can conquer them ... in addition, with efforts
like Vampire Killer 2000, the enemy KNOWS that large portions of the regular
armed forces, and even larger portions of the National Guard WILL NOT go
along with their plans, but will fight them with the same technologies and
advances that they intend to use. This is exacltey what occurred when our
founders took on the British, the most powerful aremd forces of the day.
From outward appearances, those founders should not have had a chance, but
with God's help and their faith, they carried the day.
I hope this does not offend you. I do believe that if the enemy thought for
a moment that we would only use words and legislation adn other such
attempts alone, that we would be under martial law and total tyranny by
tomorrow morning. Let's not play this down, but make it apparent in as
unobtrusive and calm a way as possible. I am not urging specific action in
this regard, just obvious preparedness.
Terry,
I am honored that I was one of the 9 you choice to send this to. By
coincidence, I think not, I just started a campaign of my own today, and
due to your timely message was able to include your work. Please check out
http://Syninfo.com/Sov/
I was planning on printing out 36+ docs in one package just to give out and
I still might, in time. I do like your idea and question sheet better. It
will be more effective getting them to answer the questions for themselves
then to tell them anything, as you say.
I have three groups of people I have access to that I plan to distribute
this info to. more later....
Terry,
Good response. It is true that the IRS is used by the Fed to control the
money supply. That way the Fed always has to print more and reaps great
profits in the process.
The Conspiracy PLANS to bring down our economy, but they plan to do it on
their terms. When they do, and the money becomes worthless and no one can
buy food or fuel, they will step forward and control people with the food
and fuel that the black FEMA funds have been stockpiling for twenty+ years.
I do not doubt that our economy will probably fall either way and it will be
the cause of much suffering, and probably warfare. But, if we can upset
their time table, we upset their apple cart and allow room for those who
cherish liberty to carry the day, relying on the arm of Him who is mighty to
save. For this reason, your efforts are valuable to liberty lovers, and a
threat to the enemy. As it takes off, watch your six.
Very much appreciate your work and your energy. Have you seen Frank
Brady's site at: http://www.sky.net/~caf/ ? You may want to contact
him and develop a common strategy. There are a number of excellent
sites which share your message.
Subj: Dumbing down cops official U. S. policy
Date: 97-06-24 08:43:49 EDT
From: eleazer@pdn.net (Cynthia)
To: eleazer@onsitecom.net
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT WANTS "DUMBED DOWN" COPS
The Justice Department's Civil Rights Division has been pressuring police forces across the country to abandon "cognitive" entrance exams, which test for basic reading, writing, memory and reasoning skills.
The Department argues that such tests are illegal because they exclude too many minorities from police ranks. Cognitive test supporters say the tests are needed to assure that officers have the mental skills to make quick decisions about everything from the constitutional rights of suspects to the use of deadly force.
* As of 1993, some 83 percent of large city and county police forces used cognitive tests in hiring -- but that may be about to change.
* After years of pressure from the Justice Department, Nassau County, N.Y., agreed to replace its cognitive-based entrance exam with one that was based on personality -- in which applicants had to score only as well as the bottom 1 (one) percent of current police officers on a reading exam.
* Critics charge that the whole effort to achieve "diversity" in police ranks is leading to such absurdities as recruiting on street corners in the poorest neighborhoods, rather than going to the top black colleges
for new people.
Justice Department bureaucrats also hopped on officials in Suffolk County, N.Y., claiming that its test allowed too few minorities to get police jobs. It charged that if the test were race neutral, top scorers would have included 249 more new blacks, 170 more Hispanics and 447 fewer whites.
Police officials in other areas of the country are also feeling heat from Justice's civil rights crusaders, critics report.
* The Louisiana State Police was forced to water-down its cognitive tests to the point where that portion was "minuscule," leaving the test "no better than chance," according to experts.
* However the city of Torrance, Cal., fought back after being sued by Justice for not abandoning its cognitive tests and refusing demands that it set up a multi-million dollar fund to compensate alleged victims of its test -- with the result that it won its case, but Justice is now appealing the decision.
One test development company points out that trials are often decided on the basis of the arresting officer's written report or oral testimony, which is "pure, unadulterated mental ability."
Source: David A. Price, "Dumbing Down the Police Force," Investor's Business Daily, June 13, 1997.
FROM PHOENIX, ARIZONA
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Truth in Media's GLOBAL WATCH Bulletin 97/6-6 23-Jun-97
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A Corporate CEO: End Corporate Welfare, Income Tax
* * *
America: A Cash Cow for Islamic Terrorists
* * *
Long Reach of American "Justice:" World's Policeman or Pirate?
* * *
Murder Conviction Upheld Though Victims Are Alive!
* * *
Some Refugees Starving in Serbia
* * *
A CORPORATE CEO: END CORPORATE WELFARE, INCOME TAX
CUPERTINO, CA - Americans who resent paying income taxes so that our
socialist government can then use them against the peoples' interests,
or hand them out to rich multinational companies as corporate welfare,
have just got some unlikely allies. T.J. Rodgers, the flamboyant chief
executive of Cypress Semiconductor, and 61 other top Silicon Valley
executives, signed their names to an ad entitled, "Declaration of
Independence: End Corporate Welfare." The ad ran in the Wall Street
Journal (WSJ) earlier this month. And today (June 23), the Journal also
published Rodgers' OpEd piece, "America's Corporations Should Swear Off
Port."
As the title suggests, Rodgers argues against government handouts to
companies which make hundreds of millions of dollars in profits. Not
just because it is a waste of taxpayers' money. But also because such
subsidies make the recipient companies WEAKER competitors. And he backs
it up with examples, both from the U.S. and the Japanese computer
industry.
But what the article's headline obscures is the second major issue which
Rodgers raises - taxing of personal incomes of Americans, which the
Cypress' CEO seems to think is unconstitutional. "The first Americans
hated taxes; the Constitution limited government and, originally, banned
levies on personal income," he writes.
Indeed, the U.S. Constitution ceased being what it was envisaged to be
by the Founding Fathers, when in 1913 Congress approved the taxation of
personal incomes. And in December of the same year, the international
bankers completed the all-important round two of their hijacking of
America, when Congress approved the privately-controlled central bank -
the Federal Reserve Board.
For 137 years (1776-1913), American presidents had resisted the pressure
from international bankers to do onto the U.S. what they had already
done in Europe - cease control of governments by financial means. For
137 years, American presidents had acted in the interests of the
people. Until the international bankers dug up and dusted off an
obscure Ivy League school president (Woodrow Wilson, a Democrat), put
him in the pin-striped suit, and split the Republican vote by backing
Teddy Roosevelt's Progressive Party against the incumbent Republican
President William Howard Taft (who said he would veto the bill creating
the central bank).
Shades of Ross Perot's splitting the Republican vote to effectively help
a socialist-minded Democrat (Bill Clinton) elected to the White House?
You betcha! Like Clinton in 1992, Wilson was elected President in 1912
with less than 50% of the popular vote (42%).
Meanwhile, "it is immoral and un-American for the government to tax
working people, who struggle to make ends meet, to subsidize
corporations (or anything else)," Rodgers also said in his Wall Street
Journal piece.
"Eliminating corporate welfare is a moral imperative," he adds. "We
should not be asking senior citizens and the poor to tighten their belts
while our government actually subsidizes the sale of American chardonnay
to the French."
Indeed. If the above lines weren't written by a corporate CEO, one
might have thought they were ideas of a social worker. But Rodgers'
motive is not entirely altruistic.
"Taxing the rich to fund poorly conceived government programs is
self-destructive: It does nothing more than take money and investment
decisions away from proven moneymakers and job producers and give them
to Washington amateurs," he says.
No wonder, therefore, that the American Dream is being eroded. Since
1976 annual GDP growth per capita (expressed as a 20-year rolling
average) has steadily declined, to 1.5% from 2.5%, Rodgers points out.
Why? In part because federal, state and local taxes now consume a
whopping 35% of our national output, Rodgers argues. Current peacetime
spending is higher than the 29% peak during World War I!
A typical argument FOR corporate welfare is that Japan and Europe
subsidize their corporations, so the U.S. should do the same in order to
remain competitive. But the facts prove this rationalization false,
Rodgers says. Japan's chip market share peaked at 53% in 1986, but has
fallen to below 30% this year. Meanwhile, the U.S. is now back in first
place with more than 50% market share.
In conclusion, Rodgers writes: "Let's be frank: The choice to take money
from citizens to pursue the government's 'good ideas' is socialism pure
and simple, which has been consistently destructive to the economies of
those countries that have pursued it. America has moved 35% of the way
from its no-tax origins toward the 100% wealth control of the Soviet
Union."
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AMERICA: A CASH COW FOR ISLAMIC TERRORISTS
WASHINGTON - When A.C. Nielsen, the nation's largest coupon redemption
company, hired a private investigator to track $400 million in annual
industry losses to fraud, a surprise awaited. Among the culprits were
Palestinian merchants who redeemed coupons for products never purchased,
then sent $100 million of that cash back to the Middle East. Who
benefited from that money?
At least two of the major coupon fraud groups were headed by terrorists,
the Nielsen's investigator, Ben Jacobson, told the Associated Press on
May 25.
In St. Louis, he says, the ringleader was Zein Isa, a U.S. commander of
the Abu Nidal Organization, a group responsible for terrorist attacks
that killed or injured 900 people in 20 nations. Isa has been indicted
for terrorist activities and convicted of murder.
In Brooklyn, Jacobson found a phony coupon redemption center run by
Mahumud Abouhalima - now serving 240 years in prison for his role in the
1993 World Trade Center bombing.
"Before the bombing, we couldn't get the U.S. attorney's office
interested," Jacobson said. "After the bombing, they just wanted us to
keep our mouths shut."
---
Ed. Why shut up? Because our government doesn't want to hurt the poor
Muslim terrorists' feelings? Or so that the FBI's role in the WTC
bombing wouldn't come out in the wash? Whatever the case, the Feds'
intimidation evidently didn't work. As it also failed in case of the
McVeigh grand juror, Hoppy Heidelberg (see TIM GW Bulletin 97/6-4,
6/16/97). Both Jacobson and Heidelberg talked.
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LONG REACH OF AMERICAN "JUSTICE:" WORLD'S POLICEMAN OR A PIRATE?
PHOENIX - If government agents break the law in pursuit of justice, are
they committing a crime? Should they be prosecuted?
In theory, yes! In practice, it seems, no... At least not in the
Clinton/Reno Justice Department.
PAKISTAN
--------
Consider the international kidnapping of the suspect in the murder of
C.I.A. employees, for example, which the FBI committed in Pakistan.
Just before 4 a.m. on Sunday, June 15, five FBI agents sneaked into a
hostel in Afghanistan, where Afghan informants had told them they would
find Mir Amal Kansi, the New York Times reported on June 19. Kansi is
the suspect in a deadly 1993 shooting outside CIA headquarters.
Later, after a grueling overland trip through Pakistan to an air base at
an undisclosed location, the agents and their captive boarded an
American military aircraft, painted in camouflage markings, with an
American flag on the tail.
On Wednesday, June 18, the 33-year-old Pakistani with a graduate degree
in English was brought before a judge in Fairfax County in the Virginia
suburbs of Washington. He was ordered held without bond by a judge in
the shooting deaths of Lansing Bennett, a doctor, and Frank Darling, a
communications engineer, both CIA employees, on the morning of Jan. 25,
1993.
That's the story. And now, consider some ramifications.
The "F" in the FBI stands for "Federal," meaning U.S. domestic law
enforcement. What were the U.S. Federal agents doing in a foreign
country? Did the Pakistani government invite them there? Furthermore,
even in the U.S., the law enforcement officers are supposed to have a
court order before barging through someone's doors. Did they have it?
Did they have a Pakistani court order?
Based on the angry reactions in Pakistan, which today's New York Times
reported, it seems that the answers to all of the above questions is
"no."
If so, what distinguishes these Federal agents from the criminals they
are pursuing?
Several of Pakistan' leading newspapers picked up on this type of
reasoning. Their editorials over the past weekend demanded that the
government explain why it waived Pakistani law to allow Kansi to be
flown out of the country hurriedly on an American military plane,
according to the New York Times.
"Terrorism and those who perpetrate acts of terror are anathema to all
countries," The News, an English-language daily published in Lahore,
said Sunday (June 22). But "any person sought by a foreign power, no
matter what his crime, must have the right to expect normal extradition
proceedings before being whisked away from his homeland."
In Washington, U.S. officials have refused to give details of the
operation that captured Kansi, saying President Clinton had ordered the
silence so as not to break faith with the foreign governments that had
assisted.
This left unclear where exactly Kansi was captured. But accounts in
Pakistan have confirmed that he was picked up at a hotel in Dera Ghazi
Khan, a city in the interior of Pakistan. Local residents have said the
raiding party arrived aboard Pakistani military helicopters and used
four-wheel-drive vehicles belonging to the Pakistan Atomic Energy
Commission.
The American military plane that carried Kansi to Washington remained at
Islamabad airport for 48 hours longer. But Pakistani officials have
acknowledged that no attempt was made to bring Kansi before a court or
to give him legal counsel, the New York Times said.
The pattern was similar to that followed on several other occasions in
recent years. In this case and others involving Pakistanis wanted for
drug smuggling and in the case of Ramzi Yousef, who was flown to the
United States to face charges of having masterminded the World Trade
Center bombing, some Pakistani officials have pointed to ambiguities in
the country's extradition laws.
In other words, the U.S. Federal government is setting itself up above
the law!
No wonder that one prominent Pakistani, Hamid Gul, a retired army
general who is a former director of Pakistan's military intelligence
agency, has said he will challenge the government's action in the
Supreme Court in Pakistan.
GERMANY, DENMARK
----------------
Sometimes, the abuse takes place in reverse from the Pakistani example.
Sometimes, the U.S. Federal government uses foreign laws to circumvent
restrictions which the U.S. legislation places upon it.
The FBI shares information on the international travels of American
citizens with the police in foreign countries, for example. So American
citizens who have done nothing illegal under the laws of the United
States; who have, in fact, done nothing except exercise their right to
free speech in this country, can be arrested in countries, said Dr.
William Pierce, in his recent broadcast on the American Dissident Voices
Online Radio. As a case in point, Dr. Pierce cites the arrest by the
German secret police of American citizens Hans Schmidt and Gerhard
Lauck.
"Mr.Schmidt publishes a newsletter in the United States which often is
critical of the current German government and its policies," Dr. Pierce
said. "When he traveled to Germany last year to visit his elderly
mother he was seized at the airport by the German secret police. Mr.
Lauck was arrested while in Denmark, extradited to Germany, put on trial
for publishing Politically Incorrect materials in the United States, and
is now serving a four-year sentence in a German prison. In both of
these cases, not only did the Clinton government assist the German
police in arresting these two U.S. citizens, but it made no protest when
they were prosecuted for perfectly legal activities which they had
carried out entirely in the United States."
CAMBODIA, CANADA
----------------
And then there is Pol Pot in Cambodia. The man responsible for the
Khmer Rouge killings in Cambodia certainly deserves to be put on trial -
by his own people, the victims of his crimes. Yet, the United States
has asked Canada to be the key partner in an extraordinary effort to
take Pol Pot out of Cambodia, the New York Times reported June 23.
Why Canada?
Because only Canada and Denmark have laws that would permit them to
request such an extradition, the U.S. officials said. So on Saturday
(June 21), Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, asked the Canadian
foreign minister, Lloyd Axworthy, to request the extradition of Pol Pot
under Canada's law against genocide, according to government officials.
But so what if Canada or Denmark have such laws? What business is it of
Canada's or Denmark's to meddle in an internal affair of another
country?
More importantly, what business is it of the U.S. government to act as
the world's policeman?
ASSAULT ON NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY
-------------------------------
Let us give you some clues about that. Pol Pot is "to face an
international tribunal for crimes against humanity," the New York Times
also reported on June 23. On the ABC News program "This Week," Albright
said on Sunday (June 22), that "we will be seeking to make sure that
there is international justice carried out against this major war
criminal."
In other words, the Clinton administration globalists want to use the
Cambodian case as yet another excuse to elevate the U.N.-sponsored
Kangaroo courts above the judicial systems of sovereign nations. Their
Cambodian fig leaf is a supposed risk of violence if Pol Pot were to be
tried in his home country. The first post World War II instance in
which the U.N. established a supra-national court was the Hague Tribunal
set up to prosecute alleged war crimes in Yugoslavia and Rwanda.
The plan being worked out now for Cambodia would include extraditing Pol
Pot to Canada as a temporary measure until an international tribunal is
convened that could try him under the international Genocide Convention.
Of chief concern to the U.S. officials is China, however, the primary
backer of the Khmer Rouge since the 1960s. Beijing could block any U.N.
tribunal against Pol Pot in the U.N. Security Council.
So stand by for more concessions to China, as the Clinton government
tries to buy its acquiescence? Just what we needed, right, as Congress
gets set to vote on China's MFN status...
SUMMARY
----------------
Meanwhile, the picture which emerges from the above examples of the long
reach of the American "justice" is frightening. The Clinton government
is becoming an international judicial pariah; a legal juggernaut on the
loose, brazenly usurping the authority of national judicial systems. In
the old days, that would be called piracy at high seas. Now, this march
toward a One World authoritarian rule is being hailed by the Clinton
globalists as "progressive."
It is not. It is George Orwell's Big Brother arriving on the scene a
decade or so later than the famous British author had predicted in his
book "1984." And that is the reason the American people must stop this
juggernaut before it consumes them, too.
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MURDER CONVICTION UPHELD THOUGH VICTIMS ARE ALIVE
SARAJEVO - If you ever thought the U.S. justice system needed an
overhaul, wait till you find out how the Muslim justice works in
Bosnia. Lest you forget, the Bosnian Muslims are Bill Clinton's and
Madeleine Albright's friends and protégés.
In our TIM GW Bulletin 97-03, 3/11/97, we told you about Kasim and Asim
Blekic, two Muslims who were found to be alive even though Sretko
Damjanovic, a Serb, was convicted in a 1993 trial of supposedly
murdering. Damjanovic was sentenced to death, but the sentence has not
been carried out.
Well, the Bosnian Muslim judicial farce continues. Reuter reported on
June 15, that the Sarajevo appeals court has rejected Damjanovic
lawyer's retrial motion as "unfounded."
---
Ed. Guess this decision gives a new dimension to the term - "brazen
abuse of justice."
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SOME REFUGEES ARE STARVING IN SERBIA
BELGRADE - Representatives of an organization representing the 700,000
mainly ethnic Serb refugees in federal Yugoslavia say the refugees'
social and economic situation is bad and growing worse, Nasa Borba
reported on 10 June, according to an RFE/RL dispatch. Problems include
death by starvation among the elderly and infirm.
The activists note that both the government and the opposition alike
ignore the refugees, and that "the most hated person" among those who
fled Croatia and Bosnia is Bratislava Morina, Serbia's chief official in
charge of refugees..
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--
Bob Djurdjevic
TRUTH IN MEDIA
Phoenix, Arizona
e-mail: bobdj@djurdjevic.com
LINKS: Forbes Column
McVeigh Verdict Column
Annex Research Home Page
From: Rick Ainsworth
Florida Delegate
Third Continental Congress
Subject: Delegates from YOUR state needed.
Fellow Patriot:
The purpose of this email is to solicit your participation in the efforts
nationwide to restore the freedoms and liberties that were once guaranteed
by our Constitution. The Third Continental Congress (3CC) is laying the
groundwork for a truly constitutional based government. WE are NOT calling
for a Constitutional Convention to rewrite the Constitution. WE are NOT
racists. WE Welcome all patriots without regard for color, religion, race,
or sex. A Patriot is a Patriot and WE Welcome ALL who are Patriots and wish
to stop the rush towards the One World Government or as they call it today,
the "Global Community".
Who is the Third Continental Congress ? WE are made up of primarily
Christian men and women from all over this once great land who cannot sit by
and watch our freedoms erode away one by one. There is more than enough
evidence to convince all Americans regardless of educational background that
what is happening to us is not only wrong but illegal......constitutionally
speaking. WE have an opportunity to do something to change this rush to
tyranny. WE have an opportunity to insure our children do not live in a
world/country that patriotism is a bad word...or an illegal act.
I ask you to visit our web site and see for yourself:
http://www.afn.org/~mpress/3cc/3ccindex.html
WE need volunteers from your state to help.....WE cannot do it alone...WE
need you.
Please consider joining our cause and fight for freedom. I will be more
than happy to converse with you further regarding your participation. WE
hope to be able to conduct as much business as possible via the Internet,
through secure chat sites and with email. However WE do have face to face
meetings approx. twice a year. Our next meeting: Session Three will be
held in Independence, Missouri on July 12-14, Saturday through
Monday....adjourning Monday afternoon. I look forward to talking to you
further regarding your participation in this historical event in the
existence of this country.
WE MUST DO SOMETHING......
PS: We would like to set up a judiciary, and would like participation from
the common law activists.
Sincerely,
Rick Ainsworth, KF4MS
(904) 668-7492 (evenings)
rick_ainsworth@nettally.com
We should be as wise as a fox in our discussions. Their is risk that we can
not ignore, but to say nothing invites greater risk. So we say what we
must, forthrightly and directly, and we say it at the right time and in the
right places. This requires us to be wise, spriritually wise ... which
requires us of course to live in conformity (as we possible can) with God's
laws.
The enemy knows this, and is of course a major reason for the assault on
morality, the family, the sanctity of life, and traditional Christian
values, ... along with the economic, political, military and other assaults
we face.
I.m going to send (email) you an article I received recently and will be
publishing on my site. It includes many quotes from our enemies where they
document many of their plans.
Again, keep up the good work. Sometime we will have to talk about how far
you go in creating laws to control individual actions. Clearly, the fewer
the better. Also, you can not legislate morality. But we do in effect do
that when we make murder illegal ... so then, should abortion be illegal?
(I feel yes) ... or sodomy? (and I am talking homosexual relationships or
beastiality here. ...again, I feel yes, because of all that unavoidably goes
with these particular lifestyles.). Sodomy, defined as I have above, has
been around since Old Testament days. Surely these "acts" predated the
laws passed against it in the colonies and later the states. Drugs are an
interesting dilema ... if they effect an individual's ability to keep from
infringing on others, there should clearly be some "fences" established.
Similarly, I believe if a community comes together and votes to not allow
zoning for, say a XXX rated Porn Bookstore or Video store in their town,
they should have every right to do so ... in doing so though, they are in
effect legislating morality within the confines of their town. What say
you? My biggest issue is when the federal government seeks to impose these.
It is not their place in the Constitution. I believe these types of actions
should be properly left to the states and/or the people. That way, on small
differences (say smoking laws or alcohol) people can decide which state or
community best suits their tastes, or they can become involved and try to
institute republican change.
I believe a moral people can establish equitable laws in this regard. The
bottom line on most of these is the moral character of "we the people". If
we are a people of high moral character, then the issues will clearly be "in
the closet" and not even contempleated by society as a whole. At the same
time, you will always have new people coming into the society and the limits
should be well understood.
Oh well, more later. Keep the Faith and keep working!
In reading many US military and UN documents describing the future motives
and reasons for warfare worldwide, it is predicted that water (scarcity)
will be one of the main causes for many future wars, severe dissension and
numerous fatalities. In the article below, we see depicted clearly one of
the ways the engineering of those wars, dissension and fatalities, will
occur in the US also. Angie
>>From: MilitiaNet@aol.com (by way of mel's fern
Here's a miracle. A U.S. Congressman telling it
>like it is. Is anyone familiar with the Hon. Jacob
>Thorkelson's voting record? Pass it on please.
>You might forward it to your State legislators. They
>might believe it coming from a colleague of sorts.
>Jackie Patru - CDR
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>>From: Bill Mercer
I'm not sure if you've seen this. A friend sent it to me and thought I'd pass it along.
Nancy
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>Our service provider tampered with our service and upon complaint, changed
>the password to my account (SO MY MAIL IS STILL GOING TO P-C-NET.NET, I
>can't read it, but apparently THEY can. They also cut off AL but actually
>turned his account off. (Please read following message for details on that).
>
>However, that means AEN NEWS is down, so this message is only reaching
>people on my list. PLEASE WIDELY FORWARD THIS AND POST IT TO NEWSGROUPS
>EVERYWHERE.
>
>The Supreme Court Case says that a CIVIL proceeding can be brought to
>MENTALLY COMMIT someone said to be "dangerous to himself or others," with NO
>proof being offered whatsoever of any harm to anyone else, NO criminal
>charge being filed, NOTHING.
>
>Mental commitments are for AS LONG AS THE DOCTORS SAY TO KEEP YOU -- there
>is NO DEFINITE SENTENCE.
>
>How many patriots has this already been done to and been tried on? NOW THEY
>HAVE CARTE BLANCHE, PEOPLE!
>
>Note, too, that in civil cases, as opposed to a criminal prosecution for a
>crime, the standard of proof isn't "beyond a reasonable doubt," but that
>there must only be a showing by a "preponderance of the evidence."
>
>This is a GHASTLY, GHASTLY ruling. This is EXACTLY the technique that was
>used to send Alexander Soljenitzen and thousands of dissidents off for
>"mental commitment" in the Communist Soviet Union.
>
>(They, of course, have used a case involving a very sick deviant person, to
>set precedent, but now that the precedent says what it says, the gloves are
>off and they will be taking out people on "civil commitments" left and
>right. Watch.)
>
>
>
>==========================================
>
>KANSAS v. HENDRICKS
>
>certiorari to the supreme court of kansas
>
>No. 95-1649. Argued December 10, 1996 -- Decided June 23, 1997
>
>==============================================
>[n.*]
>
>Kansas' Sexually Violent Predator Act establishes procedures for
>the civil commitment of persons who, due to a "mental
>abnormality" or a "personality disorder," are likely to engage in
>"predatory acts of sexual violence." Kansas filed a petition
>under the Act in state court to commit respondent (and cross
>petitioner) Hendricks, who had a long history of sexually
>molesting children and was scheduled for release from prison. The
>court reserved ruling on Hendricks' challenge to the Act's
>constitutionality, but granted his request for a jury trial.
>After Hendricks testified that he agreed with the state
>physician's diagnosis that he suffers from pedophilia and is not
>cured and that he continues to harbor sexual desires for children
>that he cannot control when he gets "stressed out," the jury
>determined that he was a sexually violent predator. Finding that
>pedophilia qualifies as a mental abnormality under the Act, the
>court ordered him committed. On appeal, the State Supreme Court
>invalidated the Act on the ground that the precommitment
>condition of a "mental abnormality" did not satisfy what it
>perceived to be the "substantive" due process requirement that
>involuntary civil commitment must be predicated on a "mental
>illness" finding. It did not address Hendricks' ex post-facto and
>double jeopardy claims.
>
>Held:
>
>1. The Act's definition of "mental abnormality" satisfies
>"substantive" due process requirements. An individual's
>constitutionally protected liberty interest in avoiding physical
>restraint may be overridden even in the civil context. Jacobson
>v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11, 26. This Court has consistently
>upheld involuntary commitment statutes that detain people who are
>unable to control their behavior and thereby pose a danger to the
>public health and safety, provided the confinement takes place
>pursuant to proper procedures and evidentiary standards. Foucha
>v. Louisiana, 504 U.S. 71, 80. The Act unambiguously requires a
>precommitment finding of dangerousness either to one's self or to
>others, and links that finding to a determination that the person
>suffers from a "mental abnormality" or "personality disorder."
>Generally, this Court has sustained a commitment statute if it
>couples proof of dangerousness with proof of some additional
>factor, such as a "mental illness" or "mental abnormality," see,
>e.g., Heller v. Doe, 509 U.S. 312, 314-315, for these additional
>requirements serve to limit confinement to those who suffer from
>a volitional impairment rendering them dangerous beyond their
>control. The Act sets forth comparable criteria with its
>precommitment requirement of "mental abnormality" or "personality
>disorder." Contrary to Hendricks' argument, this Court has never
>required States to adopt any particular nomenclature in drafting
>civil commitment statutes and leaves to the States the task of
>defining terms of a medical nature that have legal significance.
>Cf. Jones v. United States, 463 U.S. 354, 365, n. 13. The
>legislature is therefore not required to use the specific term
>"mental illness" and is free to adopt any similar term. Pp. 8-13.
>
>2. The Act does not violate the Constitution's double jeopardy
>prohibition or its ban on ex post-facto lawmaking. Pp. 13-24.
>
>(a) The Act does not establish criminal proceedings, and
>involuntary confinement under it is not punishment. The
>categorization of a particular proceeding as civil or criminal is
>a question of statutory construction. Allen v. Illinois, 478 U.S.
>364, 368. Nothing on the face of the Act suggests that the Kansas
>Legislature sought to create anything other than a civil
>commitment scheme. That manifest intent will be rejected only if
>Hendricks provides the clearest proof that the scheme is so
>punitive in purpose or effect as to negate Kansas' intention to
>deem it civil. United States v. Ward, 448 U.S. 242, 248-249. He
>has failed to satisfy this heavy burden. Commitment under the Act
>does not implicate either of the two primary objectives of
>criminal punishment: retribution or deterrence. Its purpose is
>not retributive: It does not affix culpability for prior criminal
>conduct, but uses such conduct solely for evidentiary purposes;
>it does not make criminal conviction a prerequisite for
>commitment; and it lacks a scienter requirement, an important
>element in distinguishing criminal and civil statutes. Nor can
>the Act be said to act as a deterrent, since persons with a
>mental abnormality or personality disorder are unlikely to be
>deterred by the threat of confinement. The conditions
>surroundingconfinement--essentially the same as conditions for
>any civilly committed patient--do not suggest a punitive purpose.
>Although the commitment scheme here involves an affirmative
>restraint, such restraint of the dangerously mentally ill has
>been historically regarded as a legitimate nonpunitive objective.
>Cf. United States v. Salerno, 481 U.S. 739, 747. The
>confinement's potentially indefinite duration is linked, not to
>any punitive objective, but to the purpose of holding a person
>until his mental abnormality no longer causes him to be a threat
>to others. He is thus permitted immediate release upon a showing
>that he is no longer dangerous, and the longest he can be
>detained pursuant to a single judicial proceeding is one year.
>The State's use of procedural safeguards applicable in criminal
>trials does not itself turn the proceedings into criminal
>prosecutions. Allen, supra, at 372. Finally, the Act is not
>necessarily punitive if it fails to offer treatment where
>treatment for a condition is not possible, or if treatment,
>though possible, is merely an ancillary, rather than an
>overriding, state concern. The conclusion that the Act is
>nonpunitive removes an essential prerequisite for both Hendricks'
>double jeopardy and ex post-facto claims. Pp. 13-21.
>
>(b) Hendricks' confinement does not amount to a second
>prosecution and punishment for the offense for which he was
>convicted. Because the Act is civil in nature, its commitment
>proceedings do not constitute a second prosecution. Cf. Jones,
>supra. As this commitment is not tantamount to punishment, the
>detention does not violate the Double Jeopardy Clause, even
>though it follows a prison term. Baxstrom v. Herold, 383 U.S.
>107. Hendricks' argument that, even if the Act survives the
>"multiple punishments" test, it fails the "same elements" test of
>Blockburger v. United States, 284 U.S. 299, is rejected, since
>that test does not apply outside of the successive prosecution
>context. Pp. 22-23.
>
>(c) Hendricks' ex post-facto claim is similarly flawed. The Ex
>Post-Facto Clause pertains exclusively to penal statutes.
>California Dept. of Corrections v. Morales, 514 U.S. 499, 505.
>Since the Act is not punishment, its application does not raise
>ex post-facto concerns. Moreover, the Act clearly does not have
>retroactive effect. It does not criminalize conduct legal before
>its enactment or deprive Hendricks of any defense that was
>available to him at the time of his crimes. Pp. 23-24.
>
>259 Kan. 246, 912 P. 2d 129, reversed.
Just wanted to share a phone number with you, it is 1-800-363-3732.
Now, what this number will do for you, is get you a copy of : Sustain-
able America, A New Concensus Report of the President's Council on
Sustainable Development.
This battle is taking place at present in the city of Ocala, Fl. The
troops there are attacking this venue at every City and County Council
meeting. They are making the general population aware of what is taking
place.
There will be more information forthcoming in the very near future.
But please *****, get this number out there for all to call. You will
find the reading extremely interesting.
Thank you *****, for not only this request, but for all the hard
work you have done for so many.
Terry,
How I got on your list is not important. I'm there.
What you said in this last transmission is valid.
One strong point in your favor: You know the English language. You
write as one should. That's good.
I'll hang around for more.
To explain me: I am a Christain (Biblical). I am an American Patriot
(Constitutional). I am a Conversationalist (Literally - not a Limbaugh
clone!) I am a good ole boy from the "Red-neck Riviera" down around
Panama City, Florida. I am a 30 year Military Retiree, and I am
Employed today. I have seen just about everything one may see in 58
years....Literally!
I have, dare I say it? Integrity! When you and I converse, we can
dispense with the iconoclastic B.S. Let's just call a spade, a spade.
Works for me.
I have a couple of friends who come close to the mold I mentioned. If
I include them as cc: addressees, know they're trustworthy and very
intelligent.
Let the dialogue continue...!
Subj: List of References FYI
U.S. Constitution
http://gopher.nara.gov./exhall/charters/constitution/constitution.html
Full-text government documents
http://www.clark.net/pub/lschank/web/govpubs.html
GPO Legislation Information Access
http://www.clark.net/pub/lschank/web/bills.html#gpo
Full text of the Congressional Record [SEARCH]
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/r105query.html
1995, 1996 and 1997 Federal Register [SEARCH]
http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/aces/aces140.html
THOMAS
http://thomas.loc.gov/
U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Worldwide
http://www.fws.gov/
U.S. State Department [Home Page]
http://www.state.gov/index.html
Oceana Law - Index of Treaties
http://www.oceanalaw.com/treaties/
FED LAW - Federal Statutes and Regulations
http://www.legal.gsa.gov/
U.S. Laws and Regulations
http://tamora.cs.umass.edu/envirotech/pay/USlaws.html
U.S. Code
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/
FindLaw Table of Contents
http://www.findlaw.com/toc.html
UN Charter
http://193.135.156.15/html/menu3/B/ch-cont.htm
UN Plan for Global Control
http://www.industries.net/radio-liberty/kjos1.htm
United Nations and International Issues [Henry Lamb]
http://www.libertymatters.org/unint.htm
Our Global Neighborhood [full text]
http://www.cgg.ch/CHAP1.html
World Constitution and Parliament Association
[ORGANIZATION FOR WORLD GOVERNMENT]
http://www.cruzio.com/~tim/wcpa/
IUCN - World Conservation Union
http://www.iucn.org/
http://www.iucn.org/Architext/AT-iucnquery.html [search]
Earth Summit - Rio + 5
http://www.un.org/dpcsd/earthsummit/
Liberty Matters [much on Biosphere Reserves, Heritage sites, etc.]
http://www.libertymatters.org/
Convention on Biological Diversity
http://www.unep.ch/bio/conv-e.html#Art10
U.S. Biosphere Reserves Directory [U.S. State Dept]
http://www.state.gov/www/global/oes/uscontact.html
Biosphere Reserve Directory [UNESCO]
http://www.unesco.org/mab/activity/br/brdir/europe-n/usa.htm
Land Between the Lakes Biosphere Reserve [Tennessee and Kentucky]
http://www.apex.net/users/patriot/pa09000.htm
Kentucky Coalition for Property Rights with a Map of Existing and Proposed
Biospheres and Wildlands for the Central Appalachian Mountains)"
http://205.198.88.6/global/nckm/coalitio.htm
[NOTE: Try http://websky.bluegrass.net/global/nckm/coalitio.htm
if above web address doesn't bring up map]
Map of World Heritage Sites and Biosphere
Reserves in the United States
http://www.libertymatters.org/MapMABWH.htm
Map of Simulated Reserves and Corridors Depicting
Requirements of the Convention on Biological Diversity
http://www.libertymatters.org/MapWild.html
A Source for Maps of the Areas Covetted by UNESCO is:
Environmental Perspectives, Inc
http://www.libertymatters.org/EPI.htm
UNESCO -MAB (Biospere Reserves & Networks) USA
http://www.unesco.org/mab/activity/bios1-2.htm
U.S. Man & the Biosphere (MAB) Program
http://www.mabnet.org/home2.html
UNESCO -MAB (FAQ on Biosphere Reserves)
http://www.unesco.org/mab/activity/brfaq.htm
THE Statutory Framework of the World Network of Biosphere Reserves
http://www.unesco.org/mab/home/frameuk.htm
ICE: MAB Fauna Database Online Query System
http://128.120.15.3/bin/$webdbc.exe/MABFauna/Reserves/select/&/mab/Country.h
tx?&d_BioResCoun=United&States+of+America
World Heritage/Biosphere Reserve List
http://www.nps.gov/maca/worldhrt.htm
World Heritage List UNESCO Biospheres
http://www.unesco.org:80/whc/heritage.htm
World Heritage Treaty [UNESCO]
http://www.unesco.org/whc/world_he.htm
Who's Who of World Heritage
http://www.unesco.org/whc/whoswho.htm
About the World Heritage
http://www.unesco.org/whc/intro-en.htm
World Heritage Information Network
http://www.wcmc.org.uk/whin/
National Park Service Legislative and Congressional Affairs
http://www.nps.gov/legal/sitemap.htm [site map]
http://www.nps.gov/legal/index.html [index]
http://www.nps.gov/legaltemp/testimony/heritage.html [World Heritage hearings]
SEARCH - National Park Service Information
http://www.nps.gov/Architext/AT-NPSquery.html
National Park Service testimony
[includes links to SOUTH CAROLINA NATIONAL
HERITAGE CORRIDOR ACT text, etc.]
http://www.nps.gov/legaltemp/testimony/heritage.html
South Carolina - National Park Service units
http://www.nps.gov/parklists/sc.html
American Heritage Rivers web site
http://www.epa.gov/OWOW/heritage/rivers.html
President's Council on Sustainable Development
http://www.whitehouse.gov/WH/EOP/pcsd/index.html
Joint Center on Sustainability [Conference of Mayors]
http://www.naco.org/memserv/sustain.htm
Hazel Henderson website [information on sustainability]
http://www.auburn.edu/tann/hazel/links.html
Border 21 [U.S. - Mexico border] NAFTA
http://www.libertymatters.org/border21.htm
============
South Carolina information copied from the
U.S. State Department website.
See complete list of Biosphere Reserve Directory at
http://www.state.gov/www/global/oes/uscontact.html
NOTE: This may not be a complete list. See map of part of
Appalachian Biosphere for areas not mentioned below that are in the western
or northwestern part of South Carolina at
http://websky.bluegrass.net/global/nckm/coalitio.htm
Biosphere Reserve: CAROLINIAN-SOUTH ATLANTIC (6)
Biosphere Reserve Coordinator: Dennis Allen
P.O. Box 1630
Georgetown, South Carolina 29442
Tel.: (803) 546-3623
Fax.: (803) 546-1632
E-mail: dallen@bell.baruch.sc.edu
Biosphere Reserve: CAROLINIAN-SOUTH ATLANTIC (6)
Administrative Site: Cape Romain National Wildlife Refuge (6.3)
Administering Entity: U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
Location: South Carolina (Charleston County)
Area (hectares): 13,858
Biogeographic Province: Carolinian-South Atlantic
Year Designated as BR: 1986
Refuge Manager: George Garris
Biosphere Reserve Coordinator: George Garris
Address: Cape Romain Wildlife Refuge
5801 Highway 17N Awendaw, South Carolina 29429
Tel.: (803) 928-3368 visitor center (803) 928-3264 office
Fax.: (803) 928-3803
E-mail: none
Internet Home Page:
http://bluegoose.refugesystemLeaflets/R4/sc/CapeRomainNWR/CapeRomain.html
Biosphere Reserve: CAROLINIAN-SOUTH ATLANTIC (6)
Administrative Site: Capers Island Heritage Preserve (6.4)
Administering Entity: South Carolina Department of Natural Resources,
Marine Resources Division
Location: South Carolina (Charleston County)
Area (hectares): 809
Biogeographic Province: Carolinian-South Atlantic
Year Designated as BR: 1986
Site Manager: Michael McKenzie
Biosphere Reserve Coordinator: Michael McKenzie
Address: Capers Island Heritage Preserve South Carolina Department of
Natural Resources, Marine Resources Division
P.O. Box 12559 Charleston, South Carolina 29422-2559
Tel.: (803) 762-5062
Fax.: (803) 762-5001
E-mail: mckenziem@c ofc.edu
Internet Home Page: none
Biosphere Reserve: CAROLINIAN-SOUTH ATLANTIC (6)
Administrative Site: Hobcaw Barony (North Inlet) (6.7)
Administering Entity: Belle W. Baruch Foundation Belle W. Baruch Institute,
University South Carolina,
Columbia Belle W. Baruch Forest Science Institute
Location: South Carolina (Georgetown County)
Area (hectares): 7,082
Biogeographic Province: Carolinian-South Atlantic
Year Designated as BR: 1987
Institute Director: Madilyn Fletcher
Address: Belle W. Baruch Institute
University of South Carolina
Columbia, South Carolina 29208
Tel.: (803) 777-5288
Fax.: (803) 777-3935
E-mail: fletcher@biol.sc.edu
Site Manager and: Biosphere Reserve Coordinator: Dennis Allen
Address: Baruch Marine Field Laboratory
P.O. Box 1630
Georgetown, South Carolina 29442
Tel.: (803) 546-3623
Fax.: (803) 546-1632
E-mail: dallen@belle.baruch.sc.edu
Hobcaw Barony (North Inlet) (6.7) contintued
Site Manager: Chuck Gresham
Address: Belle W. Baruch Forest Science Institute
P.O. Box 596
Georgetown, South Carolina 29442
Tel.: (803) 546-1013
Fax.: (803) 546-6296
E-mail: cgrshm@clemson.edu
Internet Home Pages: none
Biosphere Reserve: CAROLINIAN-SOUTH ATLANTIC (6)
Administrative Site: Santee Coastal Reserve and Washoo Reserve (6.9)
Administering Entity: South Carolina Department of Natural Resources, The
Nature Conservancy
Location: South Carolina (Charleston County)
Area (hectares): 8,906
Biogeographic Province: Carolinian-South Atlantic
Year Designated as BR: 1986
Site Manager: Tommy Strange
Biosphere Reserve Coordinator: Tommy Strange
Address: South Carolina Department of Natural Resources
P.O. Box 37
McClellanville, South Carolina 29458
Tel.: (803) 546-8665
Fax.: (803) 527-0255
E-mail: none
Internet Home Page: none
(note: Santee Coastal Reserve owned and managed by SC Dept. of NR, Washoo
Reserve owned by The Nature Conservancy and managed by SC Dept. of NR)
Biosphere Reserve: CAROLINIAN-SOUTH ATLANTIC (6)
Administrative Site: Tom Yawkey Wildlife Center (6.11)
Administering Entity: South Carolina Department of Natural Resources
Location: South Carolina (Georgetown County)
Area (hectares): 8,480
Biogeographic Province: Carolinian-South Atlantic
Year Designated as BR: 1986
Project Leader: Robert Lewis Joyner
Biosphere Reserve Coordinator: Robert Lewis Joyner
Address: Route 2 Box 181
Georgetown, South Carolina 29440
Tel.: (803) 546-6814
Fax.: (803) 527-1221
E-mail: 104621.3577@compuserve.com
Internet Home Page: none
Biosphere Reserve: SOUTH ATLANTIC COASTAL PLAIN (40)
Administrative Site: Congaree Swamp National Monument
Administering Entity: National Park Service
Location: South Carolina (Richland County)
Area (hectares): 6,125
Biogeographic Province: Eastern Forest
Year Designated as BR: 1983
Superintendent: Martha C. Bogle
Biosphere Reserve Coordinator: Richard A. Clark
Address: Congaree Swamp National Monument
200 Caroline Sims Road
Hopkins, SC 29061
Tel.: (803) 776-4396
Fax.: (803) 783-4241
E-mail: martha_bogle@nps.gov
rick_clark@nps.gov
Internet Home Page: http://www.nps.gov/cosw/
Part 6, GOV'T Spraying US Population
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From the free airwaves of the People's
Pacifica Radio Network station
WBAI-FM (99.5)
505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl.
New York, NY 10018
(212) 279-0707
NARRATOR:
The true nature of the U.S. Army's [chemical and biological warfare]
testing on [unsuspecting American populaces] was first revealed to
the World in a book entitled "CLOUDS OF SECRECY", written by Prof.
Leonard Cole of Rutgers University [New Jersey].
PROF. LEONARD COLE:
The purpose of the tests, really, was to see how well these
materials would spread, and whether an enemy who could attack with
chemical or biological agents could then be successful in causing
serious damage, illness, and perhaps, death to Minneapolis residents.
The truth is that the zinc cadmium sulfide that the U.S. Army was
spraying was, itself, a toxic material, though surely not as toxic
as an actual nerve or gas warfare or biological warfare agent
would have been.
NARRATOR:
One of the sites which was targetted with the spraying was the
Clinton Elementary School in Minneapolis, Minnesota. One of the
former students, Diane Gorny, recalls being scanned with a
fluoroscope.
DIANE GORNY:
When we came in from the playground, they would march us to the
music room, where there was a guy sitting in a chair with (if my
memory serves me correctly) what was a long fluorescent tube,
of yellow or green in color, and they would pass it over our
bodies (with our clothes on, of course); and we had no idea what
they were looking for. But we really didn't care. Fourth-graders
really didn't care.
NARRATOR:
It was only recently that Diane Gorny found out that she and her
schoolmates were being used as guinea pigs in a military
experiment. This news has been disturbing. And some have been
outraged, like Joyce Carlson, a student of the Clinton Elementary
School, in 1953.
Carlson remembers seeing vehicles, with placards on them, reading:
"Test Cars." She also remembers going through some type of metal
detector at school. Joyce Carlson, who suffers from respiratory
problems today, is angry! She says she cannot understand why
those responsible at the time allowed children to be in danger.
[JD: More accurately, they both allowed and perpetrated injury
upon these children.]
JOYCE CARLSON:
I feel that the people who were in power -- the city officials,
the school officials, the nurses, and the [U.S. Army] people
who did this testing .... oh, I can't believe they did this!
How could they allow this to happen? They didn't even ask
questions. I JUST HOPE THAT THESE KINDS OF THINGS ARE NOT
HAPPENING TODAY!
~~ TO BE CONTINUED ~~
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"HAPPENING TODAY" in 1997:
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**** N O A N S W E R S O N I L L N E S S: ****
**** S C H O O L T H U R S D A Y ****
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**** _________ By Kevan E. Mathis of The Times Staff ________ ****
**** ****
**** JASPER -- Six days after some type of mystery illness ****
**** struck down at least thirty-five people at Jasper School, ****
**** sending them to the hospital, parents, students, school ****
**** personnel and state health officials are no closer to the ****
**** answer now than they were then. ****
**** Many of the parents interviewed agree that the school ****
**** or health officials will never be able to properly ****
**** convince them that the school is safe to go back to, ****
**** especially since they cannot identify the origin of the ****
**** maladay. ****
**** Most of the parents contacted said that hospital ****
**** officials, school personnel and health workers all seem to ****
**** be trying to downplay the seriousness of the situation. ****
**** Jasper eighth-grader Ryan Clayborn said Tuesday that ****
**** his mother and stepfather, Kathy and Merle Houston, were ****
**** not going to allow him to go back to school at all until ****
**** they are 100 percent convinced that the school is safe. ****
**** Ryan and the Houstons, who live next door to the Jasper ****
**** School, said that they were very much afraid. ****
**** "The school, the health department and the hospital are ****
**** not telling us some things," said Mrs. Houston. "They're ****
**** hiding some things, and we deserve to know the truth." ****
**** Mrs. Houston said she was angry because no one came to ****
**** her house and warned her about the obvious danger, even ****
**** after the children came down with the mysterious illness. ****
**** "Why in the world didn't they knock on my door and tell ****
**** me that it would probably be better to leave until they ****
**** found out what made everybody sick?" she asked. ****
**** All members of the family agreed that their terrier dog, ****
**** who was kept outside at the time of the incident, also ****
**** became ill. ****
**** "Our dog was lifeless, sleepy, refused to eat or drink, ****
**** and kept moaning and rolling over and over," said Ryan. ****
**** "We had to give him a bath, and he seemed to feel better ****
**** the next day." ****
**** Some parents discussed enrolling their children in ****
**** other nearby schools, like Deer, Western Grove, or ****
**** Mt. Judea. ****
**** Some family members of one of the first children ****
**** stricken with the illness last Friday also described ****
**** symptons. Eric Smith's parents, Melissa and Terry Smith ****
**** of Dogpatch, said that they each contracted the same ****
**** symptoms that Eric had. ****
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-CITE-
50 USC [U.S. Code], Sec. 1520
-EXPCITE-
TITLE 50 - WAR AND NATIONAL DEFENSE
CHAPTER 32 - CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL WARFARE PROGRAM
-HEAD-
Sec. 1520: Use of human subjects for testing of chemical or
biological agents by Department of Defense; accounting to
Congressional committees with respect to experiments and
studies; notification of local civilian officials
-STATUTE-
(a) Not later than thirty days after final approval within the
Department of Defense of plans for any experiment or study to be
conducted by the Department of Defense, whether directly or under
contract, involving the use of human subjects for the testing of
chemical or biological agents, the Secretary of Defense shall
supply the Committees on Armed Services of the Senate and House of
Representatives with a full accounting of such plans for such
experiment or study, and such experiment or study may then be
conducted only after the expiration of the thirty-day period
beginning on the date such accounting is received by such
committees.
(b)(1) The Secretary of Defense may not conduct any test or
experiment involving the use of any chemical or biological agent on
civilian populations unless local civilian officials in the area in
which the test or experiment is to be conducted are notified in
advance of such test or experiment, and such test or experiment may
then be conducted only after the expiration of the thirty-day
period beginning on the date of such notification.
(2) Paragraph (1) shall apply to tests and experiments conducted
by Department of Defense personnel and tests and experiments
conducted on behalf of the Department of Defense by contractors.
-SOURCE-
Public Law 95-79, Title VIII, Sec. 808, July 30, 1977, 91 Stat. 334;
In U.S. Statutes-at-Large, Vol. 91, page 334, you will find
Public Law 95-79.
Public Law 97-375, title II, Sec. 203(a)(1), Dec. 21, 1982, 96 Stat.
1882.
In U.S. Statutes-at-Large, Vol. 96, page 1882, you will find
Public Law 97-375.
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Wisconsin teen gets probation for getting underage
girlfriend pregnant
PORT WASHINGTON, Wis. (June 24, 1997 1:56 p.m. EDT) -- A teen-ager
convicted of sexual assault of a child for getting
his 15-year-old girlfriend pregnant was sentenced to two years'
probation Tuesday, one day before their baby was due.
Kevin Gillson, who was charged even though he said he wanted to marry
his girlfriend, get a job and raise their child, had
faced up to 40 years in prison.
Some jurors have said they regretted their decision to convict Gillson,
but felt they had no choice because they said that
although his girlfriend testified the sex was consensual, longstanding
Wisconsin law says no one under age 16 can consent
to a sexual relationship.
Unless the state's sexual assault laws are changed retroactively, the
conviction will require Gillson to register with his local
police as a sex offender. He must provide a DNA sample and is barred
from doing such things as coaching youth baseball.
Ozaukee County Circuit Judge Tom R. Wolfgram ordered Gillson to perform
100 hours of community service, get counseling
and "use your best efforts" to complete high school or get an
equivalency degree. He also lifted an order that Gillson not
see his girlfriend.
District Attorney Sandy Williams didn't recommend prison time and said
Tuesday that both the girlfriend and her mother
had asked that Gillson not be sent to prison.
Gillson has been free on bail since the April 17 conviction.
While the case was pending, Gillson and his girlfriend attended marriage
counseling, and Gillson quit school to take a job
with benefits so his family wouldn't start out on welfare, said his
minister, the Rev. George Jorenby of the United Church of
Christ in Saukville.
The community of 10,000 people 30 miles north of Milwaukee had rallied
around Gillson. Before Tuesday's sentencing, more
than 20 supporters gathered outside court, some carrying picket signs
reading "A father is a terrible thing to lose."
Among those at the courthouse was Amy Hoile, one of the jurors who
regretted convicting Gillson.
"We didn't realize we had a right to judge the application of the law,"
she said.
At least seven jurors signed a letter asking Gov. Tommy Thompson to
pardon Gillson, Ms. Hoile said.
"It's a poor application of the law," Ms. Hoile said. "This kid is not a
sexual offender."
She said she and other jurors feel they were given no alternative but to
convict, and would have acquitted Gillson had they
known they could interpret the statute.
The governor's office has said it would be inappropriate to consider a
pardon until after sentencing, but Gillson's case
prompted Thompson to form a task force to review the state's criminal
code.
ASKED TO COMMENT ON AP ARTICLE MAKING AMENDMENTS EASIER
Is Governor Engler's Administration subsidizing Divorce & Domestic Violence proliferation?
Due to changes and amendments in the Domestic Violence and Divorce Laws in Michigan, the proliferation of Ex-Parte Orders that the MiBarAsn and Courts support, and the abuse of federal, state and local funds by Domestic Violence Shelters seemingly more interested in staffing and salary increases than the truth the appearance is that Governor Engler has transformed the domestic violence and divorce operations in Michigan into a kind of racketeering.
All any woman (men are largely excluded and vilified) has to due is merely allege domestic violence, presenting no facts, evidence nor even filing a complaint and she is wisked into a world of First Steps and Domestic Violence Projects chicanery providing her with free legal counsel, free housing, free child care, and a rabid community set up with pre-formatted letters and protests to beat down anyone who questions this seeming misuse of funds.
If the subsidized lady is running out of time at one shelter she is just moved to another and a 30 day clock starts all over again. This includes housing women who are themselves convicted abusers. All of the free food, rooms, services and legal help is subsidized by tax money and, worse, the legal help even defends the woman in matters totally unrelated to violence, divorce or items remotely related to why she is supposed to be there.
This is alarmist? Check out the story of Lisa Marie Pemberton-Ditzhazy as being profiled by Ivan Helfman of the Michigan Community News in Wayne, Michigan and the Detroit News 27 April article, page one, Metro Section - " Dad accuses..." by Becky Beaupre. And feature this. Mrs. Ditzhazy, who is supposed to be attending classes in her new location like: Women in Sobriety, Drug Abuse intervention, and Domestic Violence Counseling for abusers -- and who says thus she can't apply for jobs Mon-Wed and Fri because of the at location training and counseling - was nonetheless at a location where she has frequently obtained drugs on 17Jun97.
Wonder what the Mackinaw Center has to say about all this.
oh... and also
According to the Michigan Family Independence Agency's Child Protective Services, Office of Prevention Programs, money and contracts for counseling children and providing family support "was screwed up during this last budget cycle and all of the contracts were voided so there's no programs to help you children recover from the traumas they been subjected to over the last 60 days -- but there should be money in the new budget cycle, after September 30th." Hmmm - and where did the money that was screwed up go?
24June Statement of two Prevention Officers sent to do intake for kids who were kidnapped and traumatized by lawyer subsidized by Engler programs who Ex-Parte Orders were apparently obtained through misrepresentation and were reversed.
HOW DID YOUR REPRESENTATIVE VOTE ON MFN? (see below)
We applaud the 93 Democrats and 79 Republicans who voted (YES)
for America and against MFN Most Favored Nation status for China!!!
To the 112 Democrats and 147 Republicans who voted 'NO'... that
is, 'no' withholding of China MFN
Your vote told China to Continue "Normal" Business as Usual.....
Continue Nuclear proliferation, Continue arming our enemies,
Continue sneaking AK47's into our cities, Continue using our $50+
Billion dollar trade deficit to fund the Communist Military,
Continue Chinese religious persecution, Continue to imprison
freedom activists, Continue slave labor camps, Continue to bribe
our government officials. Continue to lease our closed Military
bases, Continue to buy up our factories, Continue to take our
jobs, Continue to bring your agents to our shores and...
Continue to grow into a major Communist threat to all Free People!!!
Question: In light of the above, how can Republican Leaders hold
Bill Clinton accountable for aiding the Chinese Communists or
giving them Special Privilege for Covert Campaign Payments?
To those Representatives who follow their Clinton-like Republican
Leadership, in opposition to the will of 67% of the American people,
Where is your courage? Would you have supported trade with
Nazi Germany in hopes that Capitalism and Industrialization
would have reformed that Tyrant?
Representatives who place Party over Country
risk their own re-election in November '98.
Let us not forget to hold them accountable!
Nick Ivanovich, National Coordinator,
NATIONAL STATE SOVEREIGNTY COALITION
"Information/Action, Of, By and For the People"
$$$$$$$$$$$$ "BUY AMERICAN" $$$$$$$$$$$$
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII "BOYCOTT CHINA --- IMPEACH CLINTON"
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Roll Call for China Trade Measure
>
> (June 24, 4:04 pm)
>
> The 259-173 roll call Tuesday by which the House rejected a measure
> that would have disapproved President Clinton's decision to extend
> most-favored-nation trade status to China.
>
> A "yes" vote is a vote to disapprove MFN extension.
>
> Voting yes were 93 Democrats, 79 Republicans and one independent.
> Voting no were 112 Democrats and 147 Republicans.
>
> X denotes those not voting. There are no vacancies in the 435-member House.
>
> ALABAMA=
>
> Republicans - Aderholt, Y; Bachus, N; Callahan, N; Everett, Y; Riley,
> Y.
>
> Democrats - Cramer, N; Hilliard, Y.
>
> ALASKA=
>
> Republicans - Young, N.
>
> ARIZONA=
>
> Republicans - Hayworth, N; Kolbe, N; Salmon, N; Shadegg, N; Stump, N.
>
> Democrats - Pastor, N.
>
> ARKANSAS=
>
> Republicans - Dickey, Y; Hutchinson, N.
>
> Democrats - Berry, N; Snyder, N.
>
> CALIFORNIA=
>
> Republicans - Bilbray, N; Bono, Y; Calvert, N; Campbell, N; Cox, X;
> Cunningham, N; Doolittle, Y; Dreier, N; Gallegly, N; Herger, N; Horn,
> Y; Hunter, Y; Kim, N; Lewis, N; McKeon, N; Packard, N; Pombo, Y;
> Radanovich, N; Riggs, N; Rogan, Y; Rohrabacher, Y; Royce, Y; Thomas,
> N.
>
> Democrats - Becerra, N; Berman, Y; Brown, N; Capps, N; Condit, Y;
> Dellums, Y; Dixon, N; Dooley, N; Eshoo, N; Farr, N; Fazio, N; Filner,
> N; Harman, N; Lantos, Y; Lofgren, N; Martinez, N; Matsui, N;
> Millender-McDonald, N; Miller, Y; Pelosi, Y; Roybal-Allard, N;
> Sanchez, Y; Sherman, N; Stark, Y; Tauscher, N; Torres, Y; Waters, Y;
> Waxman, Y; Woolsey, Y.
>
> COLORADO=
>
> Republicans - Hefley, Y; McInnis, Y; Schaefer, Dan, N; Schaffer, Bob,
> Y.
>
> Democrats - DeGette, N; Skaggs, N.
>
> CONNECTICUT=
>
> Republicans - Johnson, N; Shays, N.
>
> Democrats - DeLauro, Y; Gejdenson, Y; Kennelly, N; Maloney, Y.
>
> DELAWARE=
>
> Republicans - Castle, N.
>
> FLORIDA=
>
> Republicans - Bilirakis, N; Canady, N; Diaz-Balart, Y; Foley, N;
> Fowler, Y; Goss, N; McCollum, N; Mica, N; Miller, N; Ros-Lehtinen, Y;
> Scarborough, Y; Shaw, N; Stearns, Y; Weldon, Y; Young, N.
>
> Democrats - Boyd, N; Brown, N; Davis, N; Deutsch, N; Hastings, Y;
> Meek, N; Thurman, N; Wexler, Y.
>
> GEORGIA=
>
> Republicans - Barr, Y; Chambliss, Y; Collins, Y; Deal, Y; Gingrich, N;
> Kingston, Y; Linder, N; Norwood, Y.
>
> Democrats - Bishop, Y; Lewis, Y; McKinney, Y.
>
> HAWAII=
>
> Democrats - Abercrombie, Y; Mink, Y.
>
> IDAHO=
>
> Republicans - Chenoweth, Y; Crapo, Y.
>
> ILLINOIS=
>
> Republicans - Crane, N; Ewing, N; Fawell, N; Hastert, N; Hyde, Y;
> LaHood, N; Manzullo, N; Porter, N; Shimkus, N; Weller, N.
>
> Democrats - Blagojevich, N; Costello, Y; Davis, Y; Evans, Y;
> Gutierrez, Y; Jackson, Y; Lipinski, Y; Poshard, N; Rush, N; Yates, X.
>
> INDIANA=
>
> Republicans - Burton, Y; Buyer, N; Hostettler, Y; McIntosh, N; Pease,
> N; Souder, Y.
>
> Democrats - Carson, Y; Hamilton, N; Roemer, N; Visclosky, Y.
>
> IOWA=
>
> Republicans - Ganske, Y; Latham, N; Leach, N; Nussle, N.
>
> Democrats - Boswell, N.
>
> KANSAS=
>
> Republicans - Moran, N; Ryun, N; Snowbarger, N; Tiahrt, Y.
>
> KENTUCKY=
>
> Republicans - Bunning, Y; Lewis, Y; Northup, N; Rogers, Y; Whitfield,
> N.
>
> Democrats - Baesler, N.
>
> LOUISIANA=
>
> Republicans - Baker, N; Cooksey, N; Livingston, N; McCrery, N; Tauzin,
> N.
>
> Democrats - Jefferson, N; John, N.
>
> MAINE=
>
> Democrats - Allen, N; Baldacci, N.
>
> MARYLAND=
>
> Republicans - Bartlett, Y; Ehrlich, Y; Gilchrest, N; Morella, N.
>
> Democrats - Cardin, Y; Cummings, Y; Hoyer, Y; Wynn, Y.
>
> MASSACHUSETTS=
>
> Democrats - Delahunt, Y; Frank, Y; Kennedy, Y; Markey, Y; McGovern, N;
> Meehan, N; Moakley, N; Neal, N; Olver, Y; Tierney, Y.
>
> MICHIGAN=
>
> Republicans - Camp, N; Ehlers, N; Hoekstra, N; Knollenberg, N; Smith,
> Y; Upton, Y.
>
> Democrats - Barcia, Y; Bonior, Y; Conyers, N; Dingell, N; Kildee, Y;
> Kilpatrick, Y; Levin, N; Rivers, Y; Stabenow, N; Stupak, Y.
>
> MINNESOTA=
>
> Republicans - Gutknecht, N; Ramstad, N.
>
> Democrats - Luther, N; Minge, N; Oberstar, N; Peterson, N; Sabo, Y;
> Vento, Y.
>
> MISSISSIPPI=
>
> Republicans - Parker, Y; Pickering, Y; Wicker, N.
>
> Democrats - Taylor, Y; Thompson, Y.
>
> MISSOURI=
>
> Republicans - Blunt, Y; Emerson, N; Hulshof, N; Talent, N.
>
> Democrats - Clay, Y; Danner, Y; Gephardt, Y; McCarthy, N; Skelton, N.
>
> MONTANA=
>
> Republicans - Hill, N.
>
> NEBRASKA=
>
> Republicans - Barrett, N; Bereuter, N; Christensen, N.
>
> NEVADA=
>
> Republicans - Ensign, Y; Gibbons, Y.
>
> NEW HAMPSHIRE=
>
> Republicans - Bass, N; Sununu, N.
>
> NEW JERSEY=
>
> Republicans - Franks, N; Frelinghuysen, N; LoBiondo, Y; Pappas, Y;
> Roukema, N; Saxton, N; Smith, Y.
>
> Democrats - Andrews, N; Menendez, Y; Pallone, Y; Pascrell, Y; Payne,
> Y; Rothman, Y.
>
> NEW MEXICO=
>
> Republicans - Redmond, N; Schiff, X; Skeen, N.
>
> NEW YORK=
>
> Republicans - Boehlert, N; Forbes, Y; Gilman, Y; Houghton, N; Kelly,
> N; King, Y; Lazio, N; McHugh, N; Molinari, Y; Paxon, Y; Quinn, N;
> Solomon, Y; Walsh, N.
>
> Democrats - Ackerman, N; Engel, Y; Flake, N; Hinchey, Y; LaFalce, N;
> Lowey, N; Maloney, N; Manton, N; McCarthy, Y; McNulty, N; Nadler, Y;
> Owens, Y; Rangel, N; Schumer, N; Serrano, N; Slaughter, N; Towns, N;
> Velazquez, Y.
>
> NORTH CAROLINA=
>
> Republicans - Ballenger, N; Burr, Y; Coble, N; Jones, Y; Myrick, Y;
> Taylor, N.
>
> Democrats - Clayton, Y; Etheridge, N; Hefner, Y; McIntyre, Y; Price,
> N; Watt, Y.
>
> NORTH DAKOTA=
>
> Democrats - Pomeroy, N.
>
> OHIO=
>
> Republicans - Boehner, N; Chabot, N; Gillmor, Y; Hobson, Y; Kasich, Y;
> LaTourette, N; Ney, N; Oxley, N; Portman, N; Pryce, N; Regula, N.
>
> Democrats - Brown, Y; Hall, Y; Kaptur, Y; Kucinich, Y; Sawyer, N;
> Stokes, Y; Strickland, Y; Traficant, Y.
>
> OKLAHOMA=
>
> Republicans - Coburn, Y; Istook, N; Largent, N; Lucas, N; Watkins, N;
> Watts, Y.
>
> OREGON=
>
> Republicans - Smith, N.
>
> Democrats - Blumenauer, N; DeFazio, Y; Furse, N; Hooley, N.
>
> PENNSYLVANIA=
>
> Republicans - English, N; Fox, N; Gekas, N; Goodling, Y; Greenwood, N;
> McDade, N; Peterson, N; Pitts, N; Shuster, N; Weldon, N.
>
> Democrats - Borski, Y; Coyne, Y; Doyle, N; Fattah, N; Foglietta, N;
> Holden, N; Kanjorski, N; Klink, Y; Mascara, Y; McHale, N; Murtha, N.
>
> RHODE ISLAND=
>
> Democrats - Kennedy, Y; Weygand, Y.
>
> SOUTH CAROLINA=
>
> Republicans - Graham, Y; Inglis, Y; Sanford, Y; Spence, Y.
>
> Democrats - Clyburn, Y; Spratt, Y.
>
> SOUTH DAKOTA=
>
> Republicans - Thune, N.
>
> TENNESSEE=
>
> Republicans - Bryant, N; Duncan, Y; Hilleary, Y; Jenkins, N; Wamp, Y.
>
> Democrats - Clement, N; Ford, N; Gordon, Y; Tanner, N.
>
> TEXAS=
>
> Republicans - Archer, N; Armey, N; Barton, Y; Bonilla, N; Brady, N;
> Combest, N; DeLay, N; Granger, N; Johnson, Sam, N; Paul, N; Sessions,
> N; Smith, N; Thornberry, N.
>
> Democrats - Bentsen, N; Doggett, N; Edwards, N; Frost, N; Gonzalez, Y;
> Green, N; Hall, N; Hinojosa, N; Jackson-Lee, N; Johnson, E. B., N;
> Lampson, N; Ortiz, N; Reyes, N; Rodriguez, N; Sandlin, N; Stenholm, N;
> Turner, N.
>
> UTAH=
>
> Republicans - Cannon, N; Cook, Y; Hansen, N.
>
> VERMONT=
>
> Others - Sanders, Y.
>
> VIRGINIA=
>
> Republicans - Bateman, N; Bliley, N; Davis, N; Goodlatte, N; Wolf, Y.
>
> Democrats - Boucher, N; Goode, Y; Moran, N; Pickett, N; Scott, Y;
> Sisisky, Y.
>
> WASHINGTON=
>
> Republicans - Dunn, N; Hastings, N; Metcalf, N; Nethercutt, N; Smith,
> Linda, Y; White, N.
>
> Democrats - Dicks, N; McDermott, N; Smith, Adam, N.
>
> WEST VIRGINIA=
>
> Democrats - Mollohan, Y; Rahall, Y; Wise, N.
>
> WISCONSIN=
>
> Republicans - Klug, Y; Neumann, N; Petri, N; Sensenbrenner, Y.
>
> Democrats - Barrett, N; Johnson, N; Kind, N; Kleczka, N; Obey, Y.
>
> WYOMING=
>
> Republicans - Cubin, Y.
Thnx. I have no other name for dissemination. Those who know, know.
Those who don't, don't care.
I am a well-watched rascal on the local political and militia scenes.
My main thrust is the ability to enunciate facts, analyze theories, and
draw rational conclusions. At most junctures, my proclamations follow
conservative/libertarian philosophies. I am always a burr under the
saddles of socialists/communists/fascists and the "dominant media"
contributors and spokespersons... Amazing, huh?
If the situation warrants, and a theological position will be upheld
through "thought association" by quoting the Authorized Version of 1611
(KJV), I usually quote the gist of things spiritual to amplify things
secular. One must always consider Matthew 7: 6, and not cast one's
pearls before swine. You being an intelligent and learned person will
understand all this.
Have a good evening... Look forward to a better tomorrow. After all,
you can make that occur. I'll take better over worse anyday!
Just finished reading your site and am greatly impressed. Keep up the good work.
A helpful addition.
Not only does the federal reserve created money out of thin air and loan it to the government, they also do it to us. They called it mortgage loans, car loans and credit card loans but they are all essentially the same thing. The Truth is the banks that follow federal reserve rules do not loan any of their money or other depositors to us. They merely create "checkbook money" and then lie to us by calling it a loan. Mortgage loan payments, car loan payments, credit card payments are no different than income taxes, they are all extortion payments to the international bankers.
A Brother In Christ
In 1769, Samuel Adams and some allies began publishing their "Journal of
the Times" , which was soon published in newspapers all over the
colonies.
The objective was to report the misbehavior of the British troops.
Perhaps it is time for the "Journal of the Times" to return.
http://www.azi.com/opf/jtind.htm
--
Gary Hunt, Outpost of Freedom
mailto:opf@azi.com
"when the government is pointing its guns in the wrong direction!"
http://www.azi.com/opf
REFERRING TO Electronic Telegraph, Tuesday, 6/24/97, Issue 60 Entitled
Belgian UN Troups Admit To "Roasting" Somali Boy
>Dear Americans, thousands, if not millions of UN troops are in the US,
supposedly for peacekeeping training at our various bases, among them Fort
Polk LA. The London Sunday Telegraph article below brought back terrible
memories, with a very sick feeling at my core. So, I felt it necessary to
share my very grave concerns with you. Because of the passage of time, I
had to review the details of the sorry history of the UN and its reign of
terror in Katanga, which is just one country among many, terrorized by the
UN, and backed by the US with your hard earned dollars. I felt compelled
in light of impending serious danger here in the US, to remind or inform
you (from my experience) what the UN truly is and for what reasons it
actually exists. The events of Katanga happened over 30 years ago, when I
was a mere child, and I quote heavily from M. Stanton Evans' '62 book, "The
Fringe on Top." I hope, for your health and safety, you will take the time
to read this brief history of just one UN reign of terror. Our turn with
destiny is approaching rapidly, for we SHALL surely reap what we have sown,
whether some of us wittingly or unwittingly. I was at a French boarding
school in the Congo just before the terror struck, and my father drove me
out in the nick of time. I remember well the hordes of bleeding Belgian
and Black residents of the Congo streaming across the border into Uganda
seeking refuge. Their faces pale and haunted by sheer terror and horror
remains imprinted deep in my psyche and in my mind's eye. Note, the US did
nothing to curb the reign of terror, its rogue elements in fact instigated
it, along with its true ally, the Communist, Soviet barbarians. And as
country after country (in the manner of Katanga) in Africa has fallen to
Communist tyranny, the US stood by. According to AP currently the US has
peacekeepers in 100 countries: what for and doing what? And the scores of
foreign UN troops in the US--for what reasons? Angie C.
>
>
>When the former Belgian colony, the Congo, gained its independence, June
30, 1960, the US backed a demand for centralized government, encompassing
pro-Communist "neutralists," and anti-Communists. The US lent its support
to CIA installed Premier, Patrice Lumumba, a Marxist and most brutal and
sinister dictator. Throughout this period, the United Nations lent its
support to Lumumba, protecting him and hindering the efforts of his various
opponents. The US in turn gave its support to the U.N. Katanga, a vastly
mineral rich region of the Congo, comprising some 2 million people,
remained relatively stable and quiet. The peace loving, Christian, Moise
Tshombe, viewing the anarchy of the Lumumba regime, withdrew from the
Congolese state, and Katanga declared itself independent, with Tshombe as
President. On June 1, 1961, the UN sent its troops into Katanga, as an
effort to put that province under the rule of the central government of the
Congo. On September 13, UN forces staged an all-out assault against
Katanga's capital city, in the course of which they bombed hospitals and
private homes, killed missionaries, doctors, nurses and Red Cross workers,
black and white, and routinely violated agreements reached with Tshombe.
The United States lent its full support to the United Nations action. In
1961, the Kennedy regime provided airplanes to fly supplies to the UN
troops beleaguering Katanga, and paid the lion's share of the bill for men
and supplies being used to kill missionaries, residents and devastate
hospitals. Soviet ships on the Coast provided armaments covertly. That
year, Kennedy overwhelmingly supported the authorization of an
appropriation of $100 million by Congress to meet additional UN obligations
incurred in the Katanga slaughter. After some of the worst atrocities in
history, rapes and killings of white and black residents, bombings of
civilian buildings and shattering the infrastructure of Katanga, the UN,
with full US and Soviet support, shattered the anti-Communist nation of
Katanga and spurred civil war throughout the Congo. Senator Thomas Dodd
(D-Conn.) made a fact-finding mission to the Congo and summed it up this
way in a speech to the Senate, September 8, 1961: "Under the guise of
assisting the central government and reestablishing parliamentary rule, the
UN... has been preparing the way, step by step, for a Communist take over
in the Congo.... Within recent weeks, the UN has fostered the creation of a
so-called coalition government, so heavily weighed in favor of ghe
Communists, that, unless we do something to reverse the course of UN
policy, the outcome is virtually a mathematical certainty... Katanga has
60% of the world supply of cobalt and vast mineral wealth of other kinds.
The control of this mineral wealth is of the greatest importance to the
free world. Among the various UN officials who served there was Gustavo
Duran, former employee of the US State Department. Duran was UN Political
Officer in the Congo from August 1960-61. Gustavo Duran is an alumnus of
the Truman-Acheson State Department, and was the subject of charges by the
late Senator Joseph McCarthy. A memorandum by James Shepley of Time
magazine in the Congressional Record 11/14/51, described this UN official,
"Duran is considered flatly to be MVD (Soviet secret police)." The Congo
was renamed Zaire after the US installed the communist Mobutu Sese Seko as
dictator and he devastated and oppressed the nation for 32 years. He
refused to completely "privatize" read sell all of his nations' wealth to
international bankers, so he had to go. The stories are not much different
with other US stooges, like the Shah or Iran, Marcos of the Philippines,
Noriega, and numerous other leaders of nations who while puppets, refused
to tow the line absolutely.
>
>Today, Katanga is the province of Kivu in Eastern Zaire, precisely where
in the last seven months the genocide of close to a million souls has
occurred and continues. Another Marxist dictator, Kabila, has been
installed, after the last one out-lived his usefullness. Today, 27
investment corporations and scores of Western gold companies are vying for
Zaire's/Congo's (now renamed the Republic of the Congo) vast oil and
mineral wealth, at the complete expense of its inhabitants. Africa's 53
nations will be divided into six regions and ruled by Western powers behind
its corrupt African stooges.
EXECUTIVE ORDERS FOR
The New World Order
WHAT ARE EXECUTIVE ORDERS
Executive Orders are laws established by United States presidents. These
laws are not passed by the Congress, and create an end-run around the
Constitution. These laws begin as Executive Orders which are simply
printed in the Federal Register. After thirty days these orders become
law and carry the full impact of any law passed by the United States
Congress. These laws are unconstitutional because the Constitution does
not afford any person the right to create laws by himself that negates
the Constitution.
To understand just how this could all come about you need to open your
eyes, your mind and your heart. What we have discovered is quite scary,
very much unconstitutional and in every sense, acts of treason against
the United States of America. There are individuals in this world,
within this country, and in our government who would like to rule the
world, and they do believe that this is possible. They are, and have
been working towards this goal for decades. Some of the individuals
caught up in this endeavor have been our very own elected officials.
These power hungry individuals have corrupted our government and are
working on sabotaging our freedom by destroying the Constitution of the
United States, in order to establish the "New World Order" (a.k.a.
"Global Community").
To bring about this New World Order, and ultimately the single World
Government, there are several things that must come about: All forms of
government throughout the world must cease to function and thus the
countries would become bankrupt. Because the Constitution is a document
that safeguards the sovereignty of our nation, it must be destroyed.
Because of the genuine threat of the American militia, the American
people must be disarmed, and become addicted to the government hand-outs
and thus become "sheeple."
The American people have become so accustomed to their freedom and the
constitutional safeguards afforded them, that they have paid little, if
any attention, to what is and could be happening around them. The
international establishment has planned this, and are working to use this
weakness to erode our freedom and take control of the United States.
* The Declaration of
Mystery solved
It seems that when the good Lord was making the world, he called Man
aside and bestowed upon him 20 years of normal sex life. Man was
horrified, but the Creator refused to budge.
Then the Lord called the monkey and gave him 20 years. "But I don't
need 20 years," said the monkey. "Ten years is plenty." Man said, "May
I have the other 10 years?" The monkey agreed.
The Lord called on lion and gave him 20 years. He, too, wanted only
10. Again, Man spoke up. "May I have the other 10 years?" "Of course,"
said the lion.
Then came the donkey, who was also given 20 years. Like the others, 10
years was enough for him. Man again asked for the spare 10 years, and he
got them.
This explains why Man has 20 years of normal sex life,
10 years of monkeying around,
10 years of lion about it and,
10 years of making a jackass out of himself.
At 12:48 AM 6/26/97 -0400, you wrote:
>
>Carol:
>
>I am impressed! That keyboard of yours must be smoking!
>
>Here is my comment and position on this whole diversion of attention from the
>REAL, IMPORTANT ISSUES:
>
>Every week it seems that someone comes up with another proposed amendment.
> They want to eliminate flag burning, they want a 20 page dissertation on
>victim's rights, etc..
>
>What is the *&^%&^*&^ point?
Once you get people used to the idea of adding all of these "neat ideas" to
the Constitution, then you call a convention to amend the Constitution to
get them all done at once, Right ? Wrong. When they have their
convention, the current Constitution WILL BE REPLACED, not amended. The
precedent to do so was set in 1776. Remember where you heard it first.
>
>We already have a lot of amendments.
>
>Why don't we try reimplementing the First?
For starters.
>
>Why don't we reemplement the Second and educate people as to its meaning and
>the meaning of the phrase "shall not be infringed". That means
>"unrestricted". No waiting periods, no fingerprints, no background checks,
>etc.. Who in the world is stupid enough to think a law will keep a criminal
>from getting weapon. Not quite on point but close enough, Charles Manson was
>recently denied a parole hearing because he failed TWO DRUG TESTS IN A ROW -
>in a MAXIMUM SECURITY PRISON!
>
>Why don't we consider that the 5th is a farse when wiretaps occur without
>court order or based on lies and when you can be compelled to have medical
>and other tests. If you really have the right against self incrimination
>does that only apply to the air which makes your vocal cords vibrate?
>
>What about the REAL 13
>th Amendment? Under fairly reasonable interpretations, it is possible
>to conclude that ANY action taken by Congress since before the Civil War is
>a nullity.
>
>What about the fact that the 16th amendment was never ratified?
That's not really relevant, because it doesn't do, or change, anything of
substance.
>
>What about the fact that the IRS doesn't even exist!
Except to collect revenue in DC and territories apparently.
>
>How about the fact that income tax and social securith REALLY ARE voluntary?
No. Income tax is mandatory - WHERE ACTUALLY IMPOSED BY STATUTE.
Employment taxes (not just SS) are voluntary.
>
>How about the fact that most federal agencies are clearly unconsitutional?
It is only unconstitutional for the Federal gov't. to intrude into the
lives of citizens in matters not authorized for such in the Constitution.
It is not unconstitutional
to study issues and evaluate facts and publish recommendations, they just
cannot be enforced. So it not the agency itself that is unconstitutional,
just their specific activities where such intrusion is committed.
So, voluntary compliance ONLY for things like EPA, OSHA, etc.
>
>What about the fact that Clinton is clearly a dictator and you REALLY can't tell
>the difference between the u.S.A. and the U.S.S.R. any more -- maybe we should just change the
>name to U.S.S.A. - United Socialist States of America?
They did in 1933, Did they forget to tell you ?
>
>Here is the BOTTOM LINE: If you took a realistic look at this country, would
>you conclude that it's blueprint is:
>
> A. >The Constitution or
> B. The
Commu
>nist Manifesto?
>
>Look at both and decide for yourself.
No question - the Manifesto.
>
>A Couple Of Quick Examples: The Constitution prohibits the Federal Reserve
>and our Founding Fathers were adamant about not having a central bank,
>especially a privately held one. The Communist Manifesto Calls for it.
>Which one won?
>
>The Constitution calls for uninfringed rights to keep and bear arms. This
>means absolutely no limitations! The Communist Manifest advocates guns in
>the hands of the "State" ONLY. Janet Reno said something to the effect the
>other day with regard to gun control like "the ultimate goal is
>
>PROHIBITION
>
>Based on this goal, as spoken by the ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES,
> which blueprint is being used?
>
>
>The BOTTOM BOTTOM Line:
>
>
> We don't need any more amendments.
>
> We don't need any more unconstitutional laws.
>
>What we really need to do is clean up the unconstitutional mess we have now.
>
>Before we toss the Constitution,
>or make more changes to it,
>why don't we try living by it
>as it was intended!
Of course.
>
>What we might find is that there is no need for additional amendments because
>the issues are either political grandstanding OR its none of the federal
>government's business in the first place!
>
>
>
>Sincerely,
>
>
>Terry W. Stough, Founder
>American Resistance Movement
I agree that privatizing the education system would go a long way towards
starting us back on the right track. There are still enough morally based
people in this nation that good schools, at reasonable prices would be
established and the results would speak for themselves and provide all the
marketing required.
Clearly, laws can only be enforced against those who break them, whatever
the law. They should be enforced strongly and heavily. Swift consequences
for the violation of any good law is the only way it can be maintained for
those who would think to violate it. Law enforcement is a tool that is used
99% of the time after the fact, in other words, after the crime is
committed. If it is a good law, the populace will support strong
enforcement. If the law abiding, moral citizen must be intimidated into
supporting a law (ie. IRS), then you can bet it is not a god law.
Prevention is the ultimate cure, and, as you state, eduction is the key.
The conspiracy is well aware of this, and that is why ourr education system
is in such shambles. It also is why they have t intimidate the moral
citizens into participating. Those are important keys to perception of good
and bad laws.
Great dialog with you Terry, I appreciate it.
> From: Vin Suprynowicz
Subj: Re: Constitutional loophole?"-FEEDBACK REQUESTED!!!
Date: 97-06-26 23:39:16 EDT
From: Clido
To: TWStough
REMARKS BY A "FULLY ARMED" ISRAELI ON GUN CONTROL"
I just visited your home page and enjoyed it quite a bit.
I thought you might be interested in knowing the gun situation here in
Israel. In theory, we have very tought control laws. It takes quite a
bit of time to get a license.
BUT...every soldier is required to keep his gun with him, even while on
leave. This means that every 19-21 year old girl and every 19-22 boy
has an automatic rifle, with a minimum of two full clips, at all times.
In addition, the same rules apply when you are in reserve duty. All men
do 30 days a year reserves until they are 50, and they, too, carry
M-16s.
If you live in what is considered a dangerous area, like I do (along the
Lebanese border) you are issued a M-16 which you keep at home (with 5
full clips). Some people, like myself, have special army duties that
require additional firepower. I was deputy commander of an sniper unit
(reserves) and had an FN sniper rifle.
BUT -- despite all this, Israel has one of the lowest violent crime
rates in the world. On the rare occasion that a weapon is misused it is
front page news.
Sort of casts doubt on the wisdom of keeping citizens unarmed, doesn't
it?
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>>
>> ALERT!!!!!!!! Last night Great Britain voted by a 2/3 majority to BAN
>> ALL HANDGUNS. This includes even .22cal single shot handguns. You cannot
>> even store them at the gun club! They are offering no compensation to
>> the owners of the firearms, the gun clubs that will have to close
>> because of it or even to their gold medal Olympic team that will no
>> longer be able to compete. One speaker said that the rights of the
>> public to be safe out weighed the minority of legal lawabiding citizens
>> to own handguns, even for target practice.
>>
>> President Clinton is prasing Great Britain for this move. Are we next?
>> Is this not what happened in Germany before WWII? Or Russia or countless
>> other times in history so that citizens could not defend themselves?
>>
>> We need to be prepared for legal battle for our second amendment rights
>> like you have never seen before. You can bet that as soon as the word
>> spreads to all of the anti-gunners they are going to start screaming for
>> the same thing here. We cannot let this be the end of our so called
>> "minority" rights to own a firearm.
>>
>> Please send this to everyone that even remotely cares about their 2nd
>> amendment rights.
I like your idea! I've got a better one.
They have ignored the people for over 200
years, let's ignore them for the next 200!
It couldn't be worse than it is now!
....
Again we have a slight difference of opinion. If the TENTH says that
everything else is reserved to States, then why spend BILLIONS or TRILLIONS
on recommendations?
....
Yes I agree, but I think that sort of "looking into" can be put in the
"general welfare" category. Remember, the States (and People) ask them to
do it (look into it).
Hi~
First let me say that I am a female :D
Now let me say that I feel that we are to be about the business of telling people about the "Good News".....however,
Even Jesus gave clues to the "signs" of the times concerning his return to Earth. He told us to "watch". There are also prophecies that have been fulfilled and continue to be fulfilled at an alarming rate. I don't believe these things will happen up to a point and then stop, although that has been known to happen as with Daniel's 70th week (which 69 weeks of years happened and then was cut off). The NWO crowd now has their "chip" and an agenda to fullfill. They have grown to be powerful and will not permit any delays. They use drugs, anti-family laws, and anything else they can to subvert people into a wayward life, just so "They" can say..."See! You need a keeper and MORE laws"!
As for it being heresy to try and "figure out" WHEN Jesus is returning....well, the Bible has already told us.....it will be at the Battle of Armageddon (unless you mean the Rapture). There are also timelines in the Bible that scholars are aware of, such as the Passover. The Passover is the Jewish celebration of what we Christians know as the Resurrection (this is NOT the holiday named Easter/Ishtar). There was a time to celebrate it and it means something to the timeline of events that will happen concerning the Antichrist. Just as does the Feast of Trumpets (the last trump) and the Feast of Tabernacles (the Rapture). It does tend to get very indepth, but it is worth looking at to see what you can see. "Study to show ourselves approved", you might say! :D
~Lu