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From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
Subject: L&J: W A R N I N G: NETSCAPE SPY "BUG"

It's no accident.  The type of behavior you
are describing would take 500 to 1000 lines
of high-level language code, to do properly.
So, there is no way this is a "bug."  A bug
is a logical error which causes a program
to malfunction.  What you are describing here
is not a "bug", and I don't mean that this
as a mere semantic distinction.

/s/ Paul Mitchell




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>From: Ian Goddard <igoddard@erols.com>
>Subject: okcbomb] W A R N I N G: NETSCAPE SPY "BUG"
>
>SPREAD THIS FAR & WIDE
>
>CNN just ran a special report revealing the existence of 
>a so called "bug" in NETSCAPE that allows a host's system
>from which you download a webpage to access any file on your 
>computer. CNN proved that this bug does exist. As CNN states:
>
>      The bug makes it possible for Web-site 
>      operators to read anything stored on the 
>      hard drive of a PC logged on to the Web site.
>
>The host site must know what files to look for. Interesting
>that, in the course of my TWA 800 research, while accessing
>some U.S. military webpages that once existed but now would 
>no longer come in, the small icons on the lower right hand 
>side of my screen would indicate that quite a lot of data 
>was being uploaded to the host server. The lights would go
>from the icon representing my computer to the host computer 
>for almost a minute, the opposite of the normal download
>light sequencing. My hard drive would also be activated
>during this time. Gee whiz... ?? Such as this military
>URL on CEC: http://130.163.113.252/cec_eng.htm Probably
>there's another explanation for the reverse sequence,
>but in light of this report, it's worth pondering.
>
>I find it rather strange that there would be a "bug" that 
>just happens to perform such an underhanded function. Is not 
>a "bug" defined as something that prevents, not facilitates,
>a function?  Something that would allow me to target and 
>acquire a file on a remote computer would seem to be a 
>function. It would therefore seem that this function cannot 
>be defined as a "bug." If the host can target a given file,
>this is not a bug but a secret program in the program.
>
>I further suspect that the host could enter a command to 
>find all files that are for example  twa*.*  and thus all 
>files with "twa" at the beginning would be lifted off 
>one's system. I wonder what other convenient "bugs" 
>might lurk inside the rat-fink NETSCAPE program. 
>
>I wonder if this is not grounds for a class-action law
>suit, if it could be proven that the "bug" is no accident.
>That it just happens to be in all versions of Netscape
>including their latest version released yesterday is a
>little hard to dismiss as error. I'm sure any qualified 
>programmer could determine if it is by error or design.
>It could be a means by which to steal the source codes 
>of programers that they develop, where the thief has 
>a clue about possible file names for those codes.
>
>NETSCAPE BUG: http://cnnfn.com/digitaljam/9706/12/netscape_pkg/
>
>
>***********************************************************************
> IAN GODDARD (igoddard@erols.com)  Q U E S T I O N   A U T H O R I T Y
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
> VISIT Ian Williams Goddard   ------>    http://www.erols.com/igoddard
>_______________________________________________________________________
>
>  TWA 800: THE FACTS -->  http://www.erols.com/igoddard/twa-fact.htm
>
>      OKC BOMBING --->  http://www.erols.com/igoddard/prior.htm
>
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