Time: Thu Jul 03 20:03:10 1997 by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA04505; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 19:59:40 -0700 (MST) by usr07.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA29133; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 19:59:30 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 19:57:44 -0700 To: brendamc@theone.net From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: Vehicle??? Dear Brenda, I have taken the liberty of forwarding this message to all clients of the Supreme Law School. Thanks for your keen insights! /s/ Paul Mitchell http://www.supremelaw.com >Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 00:12:16 -0700 >From: brendamc@theone.net (brendamc) >To: pmitch@primenet.com >Subject: Vehicle??? > >Dear Paul, > >Please find following verbatim several letters I wrote to the Texas DOT, along with the >replies that I received. I just thought this might interest you. > >Thanks, >Brenda > >************************************************************************ >Brenda McCurdy >c/o P. O. Box 372 >Crystal City, Texas > >May 23, 1997 > >Texas Department of Transportation Certified Mail # P 302 098 797 >Vehicle Titles and Registration >Austin, TX 78779-0001 > >Attention: Harold Wiesenhutter > >Dear Mr. Wiesenhutter, > >I applied for a certificate of title for an automobile that I own, back in 1996. I have >since >been advised that a certificate of title is only required for vehicles which are >required to be >registered in the state. > >In good faith, I have conducted my own research of the Texas Transportation Code to >ascertain the validity of that advice. Following are some sections of the Texas >Transportation Code, to which I referred: > >TRC Section 501.022. CERTIFICATE OF TITLE REQUIRED. (a) The >owner of a motor vehicle registered in this state may not operate or permit >the operation of the vehicle on a public highway until the owner obtains a >certificate of title for the vehicle. >(b) A person may not operate a motor vehicle registered in this state on a >public highway if the person knows or has reason to believe that the owner >has not obtained a certificate of title for the vehicle. >(c) The owner of a motor vehicle that is required to be registered in this >state must apply for a certificate of title of the vehicle before selling or >disposing of the vehicle. >(d) Subsection (c) does not apply to a motor vehicle operated on a public >highway in this state with a metal dealer's license plate or a dealer's or >buyer's temporary cardboard tag attached to the vehicle as provided by >Chapter 503. > >The foregoing section clearly shows that only a vehicle which is required to be >registered >with the state must apply for a certificate of title. > >The following sections and definitions indicate the requirements for registration: > >TRC Section 502.002. REGISTRATION REQUIRED; GENERAL RULE. >(a) The owner of a motor vehicle, trailer, or semitrailer shall apply for the >registration of the vehicle for: >(1) each registration year in which the vehicle is used or to be used on a >public highway; and (2) if the vehicle is unregistered for a registration >year that has begun and that applies to the vehicle and if the vehicle is >used or to be used on a public highway, the remaining portion of that >registration year. >(b) The application must be made to the department through the county >assessor-collector of the county in which the owner resides. >(c) A provision of this chapter that conflicts with this section prevails over >this section to the extent of the conflict. > >In order to understand the meaning of the word vehicle I referred to: > >TRC Section 502.001. DEFINITIONS. (24) "Vehicle" means a device in >or by which a person or property is or may be transported or drawn on a >public highway, other than a device used exclusively on stationary rails or >tracks. > >The following terms were not defined in the definitions at Section 502.001, so I took >definitions from Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition: > > Transportation. The movement of goods or persons from one place to another, by a >carrier. > Carrier. Individual or organization engaged in transporting passengers or goods for >hire. > >So, according to the definition of vehicle in the TRC and the legal definition for >transportation, it appears that my privately owned automobile, which is not for hire, >would not be classified as a vehicle within the meaning of Chapter 502 of the TRC, and >therefore is not required to be registered in this state. And if it is not required to >be >registered in this state, then according to TRC Section 501.022, it is not required to >have a >certificate of title. > >If I have missed something in my research of this matter, would you please bring it to >my >attention by replying to this letter within 30 days? If I do not receive a written >reply to >this letter which I have sent in good faith within 30 days, I will accept the lack of >reply as >official agreement that my private automobile, which is not for hire, does not require >registration or certificate of title. Thank you for your assistance in this matter. > >Sincerely, >Brenda McCurdy > >*********************************************************************** >Texas Department of Transportation >VEHICLE TITLES AND REGISTRATION DIVISION * AUSTIN, TEXAS 78779-0001 * (512) 465-7611 > >May 30, 1997 > >Ms. Brenda McCurdy >P. O. Box 372 >Crystal City, Texas 78839 > >Dear Ms. McCurdy: > >This is in response to your letter dated May 23, 1997 in which you informed us that you >had been advised that a certificate of title is only required for vehicles which are >required to be registered in the state. > >Under Definitions in the Texas Transportation Code, as amended through the 1995 Regular >Session of the 74th Legislature, Section 502.001(13) "Motor vehicle" means a vehicle >that is self propelled. Section 502.001(17) "Passenger car" means a motor vehicle, >other than a motor cycle, golf cart, light truck, or bus, designed or used primarily for >the transportation of persons. It is stated in Section 502.001(24) "Vehicle" means a >device in or by which a person or property is or may be transported or drawn on a public >highway, other than a device used exclusively on stationary rails or tracks. Further, >it is stated in Section 502.152(a) The department may not register or renew the >registration of a motor vehicle for which a certificate of title is required under >Chapter 501 unless the owner: (1) obtains a certificate of title for the vehicle; or (2) >presents satisfactory evidence that a certificate of title was previously issued to the >owner by the department. > >Ms. McCurdy, as you did not include the vehicle identification number (VIN) for your >privately owned automobile, we are unable to ascertain the correct classification for >your vehicle. As you have stated in your letter that it is a "privately owned >automobile, which is not for hire," we would assume that the classification of your >vehicle would be a passenger car, which is subject to the registration and titling rules >of the State of Texas. > >Ms. McCurdy, we are committed to our customers and making the necessary adjustment to >our procedures whenever possible. We hope this letter gives you a better understanding >of our administration of motor vehicle laws. If you wish to pursue your dissatisfaction >with existing law, we suggest that you seek recourse through the Texas legislative >process by addressing your concerns to your legislative representatives. > >Please be assured we place the highest emphasis on quality customer service and that we >value the concerns of the citizens of this State. We greatly appreciate your input and >if we may be of further assistance, please do not hesitate to call me at 512/465-7596, >or Mr. David Linzey, Director of Headquarter Operations at 512/465-7719. > >Sincerely, >James E. Powell >Operations >Branch Manager >************************************************************************ >June 11, 1997 > >Texas Department of Transportation Certified Mail # P 302 098 800 >Vehicle Titles and Registration >Austin, TX 78779-0001 > >Attention: James E. Powell, Operations, Branch Manager > >Dear Mr. Powell, > >Thank you for your prompt reply to my previous letter. However, it seems that my query >was misunderstood. I will rephrase my question and try to make it clearer. It seems >that >we both agree that "vehicles" are required to be registered in the State of Texas. My >question is whether my privately owned automobile, which is not for hire, is a "vehicle" >or >a "passenger car" within the meaning of TRC Section 502.001 (24) and TRC Section >502.001 (17). > >TRC Section 502.001. DEFINITIONS. (24) "Vehicle" means a device in >or by which a person or property is or may be transported or drawn on a >public highway, other than a device used exclusively on stationary rails or >tracks. >TRC Section 502.001 DEFINITIONS. (17) "Passenger car" means a >motor vehicle, other than a motorcycle, golf cart, light truck, or bus, >designed or used primarily for the transportation of persons. > >According to Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, Transportation is "the movement of >goods or persons from one place to another, by a carrier". Black's defines Carrier as >an >"Individual or organization engaged in transporting passengers or goods for hire." > >You stated in your letter that you assumed that my "privately owned automobile, which is >not for hire" would be classified as a "passenger car", however, since it is not used in >transportation, I fail to see how it could fit the definition of "passenger car" in TRC >Section 502.001 (17), since the TRC definition clearly states "for the transportation of >persons". > >So, according to the definitions of "vehicle" and "passenger car" in the TRC and the >legal >definition for transportation, it appears that my privately owned automobile, which is >not >for hire, and thus not used for transportation, could not be classified as a vehicle or >passenger car within the meaning of Chapter 502 of the TRC, and therefore is not >required to be registered in this state. > >If there is some other statute requiring automobiles which are not used in >transportation >to be registered within the state, would you please bring it to my attention by replying >to >this letter within 30 days? If I do not receive a written reply to this letter which I >have >sent in good faith within 30 days, I will accept the lack of reply as official agreement >that >my private automobile, which is not for hire, does not require registration in the State >of >Texas. > >I have not voiced any dissatisfaction with existing laws in this or my previous letter >to the >DOT, and I am not seeking to change existing laws, but only to clarify whether the >existing laws apply to my privately owned automobile, which is not for hire. > >Thank you for your assistance in this matter. > >Sincerely, >Brenda McCurdy > >********************************************************************** >Texas Department of Transportation >VEHICLE TITLES AND REGISTRATION DIVISION * AUSTIN, TEXAS 78779-0001 * (512) 465-7611 > >June 16, 1996 [should be 1997] > >Ms. Brenda McCurdy >P. O. Box 372 >Crystal City, Texas 78839 > >Dear Ms. McCurdy: > >This is in response to your recent letter in which you pose questions relative to >registration and title requirements for an automobile owned by a private citizen for his >own personal use. At your request, this department had previously mailed to you >pertinent statutes which address this matter. > >Ms. McCurdy, the Texas Department of Transportation is responsible for administering the >registration and title statutues for the State of Texas. As far as we can see, the law >is clear on this matter. Annual vehicle registration renewal on every motor vehicle >operating in this state is required by statute. Failure to do so could result in a >citation being issued to you by a law enforcement officer. If you take issue with our >position on the registration and title statutes, it is suggested that you seek legal >counsel or seek legislative relief. > >If we may be of further assistance, please contact the Operations Branch of this >division at 512/465-7602. > >Sincerely, >James E. Powell >Branch Manager >Operations Branch > >************************************************************************ >July 3, 1997 > >Texas Department of Transportation Certified Mail # P 302 098 803 >Vehicle Titles and Registration >Austin, TX 78779-0001 > >Attention: James E. Powell, Operations, Branch Manager > >Dear Mr. Powell, > >Thank you for your prompt reply to my second letter. For your easy reference, I am >attaching herewith copies of both my letters along with your replies. > >Please note that this letter is not to be construed as any type of civil disobedience or >rebellion, but merely a means of trying to ascertain the truth in this matter of >registration >requirements. > >My second letter was quite clear and to the point. All you needed to do to clear up any >question in my mind is to state unequivocally that even automobiles which are not used >in >transportation are required to be registered in the State of Texas. However, rather >than >make that simple statement, you chose to beat around the bush, inferring that you had >already answered my question when you clearly had not. > >Unless I receive a reply from you within 30 days stating clearly that even automobiles >which are not used in transportation are required to be registered in the State of >Texas, I >will accept that as your clear admission that private automobiles which are not for hire >do >not require registration. I do realize that it might not be politically expedient for >you to >admit that in writing, due to the fact that if the truth were widely known, the State >would >probably have a sharp decline in collection of registration fees. > >Thank you for your assistance in this matter. > >Sincerely, >Brenda McCurdy > >********************************************************************* > > > ======================================================================== Paul Andrew Mitchell : Counselor at Law, federal witness B.A., Political Science, UCLA; M.S., Public Administration, U.C. Irvine tel: (520) 320-1514: machine; fax: (520) 320-1256: 24-hour/day-night email: [address in tool bar] : using Eudora Pro 3.0.2 on 586 CPU website: http://www.supremelaw.com : visit the Supreme Law Library now ship to: c/o 2509 N. 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