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From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
Subject: More facts in support of fed involvement in OKC bombing! FBI /
  BATF Coverup! (fwd)

Yep!  That has been my hypothesis all along.

Now, let's see if the Oklahoma state grand jury
reaches the same conclusion.  

/s/ Paul Mitchell
http://www.supremelaw.com



At 06:25 AM 7/6/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Here is some important additional information about the OKC bombing.  We need
>to spread the word to every thinking Citizen in this country that the federal
>government was behind the bombing and that the purpose was to be able to
>crack down on militias and gun ownership.   
>
>If you have not read the OKC materials on  <A
HREF="http://www.nebonet.com/hea
>dhome/dadmisc/liberty.htm">Jeff Head's Liberty Page</A> (some of which are
>linked on <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/TWStough/main.htm">The American
Resi
>stance Movement</A>  Web Site), PLEASE do so.  It is clear that McVeigh did
>not act alone.  The alternatives are that:
>
>1.  The government knew what McVeigh was going to do and planted the bombs on
>the columns inside the Murrah Federal Building so that it would appear that
>McVeighs bomb did all the damage.
>
>2.  The government controlled McVeigh who was acting as their agent and
>coordinated their strategically place bombs with McVeigh's.
>
>PLEASE study all the OKC information you can get your hands on.  Then get
>this information to as many people as possible.  If the Oklahoma Grand Jury
>does its duty, this could be the smoking gun we need to prove to the American
>people that the government is nothing but a front for a criminal organization
>(the Conspiracy) designed to rob us of our freedoms, possessions and our
>morality (what little there is left). 
>
>==============================================
>
>In a message dated 97-07-06 06:00:19 EDT, mihra@styx.cerbernet.co.uk (Roger
>Bunn) writes:
>
><< Subj:	Yo Tel,
> Date:	97-07-06 06:00:19 EDT
> From:	mihra@styx.cerbernet.co.uk (Roger Bunn)
> To:	TWStough@aol.com
> 
> did you know that in some parts of London Terry is shortened to Tel?
> 
>                 Relating to the Okla City dimension
>                 and State terrorism.
> 
> Tulsa-- Near pandemonium broke out in a federal courtroom here 
> Monday when a senior agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation shocked
> observers by telling the court that the spiritual leader of 
> Elohim City, the Rev. Robert Millar, was a confidential informant for 
> the FBI. 
> 
> The McCurtain Daily Gazette has long been reporting that Elohim City 
> is a religious and paramilitary compound in east-central Oklahoma that 
> is frequented by some of the most dangerous members of the neo-Nazi 
> underground in the United States and Canada. 
> 
> Although residents of the cult have continued to deny it publicly, the 
> Gazette has reported that its sources believe one of those shadowy 
> figures was Timothy McVeigh. 
> 
> Stories published in this newspaper have also exposed Elohim City as 
> the  center of a wide-ranging conspiracy to overthrow the federal government
> by  members of a group called the Aryan Republican Army. 
> 
> Several of those members have since been arrested on charges related 
> to a string of bank robberies across the midwestern United States. 
> 
> <Roger writes... One of these is a cross dressing (yes) skin head 
> known to her friends as "Donna". Enforcers mainly, probably into
> human sacrifice if not,  they certainly know where the bodies 
> are buried>
> 
> The incredible revelation that the leader of Elohim City himself was 
> part of a government intelligence operation came during a pre-trial 
> hearing >associated with the upcoming trial of another confidential 
> informant and frequenter of the compound, Carol E. Howe. 
> 
> 
> Howe, a former Tulsa beauty queen, debutante and one-time paid undercover
> informant for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and 
> Firearms, is scheduled to stand trial later this month for conspiracy 
> charges associated with making bomb threats and possession of bomb-making
> components. 
> 
> Howe was indicted shortly after the Gazette reported that she intended 
> to  be a key witness in the trial of Timothy McVeigh. 
> 
> U.S. District Judge Richard Matsch, who presided over the McVeigh 
> trial,  refused to let Howe testify in Denver-- ruling that her information 
> that Elohim City was the center of the bombing conspiracy "might 
> confuse the  jury." 
> 
> Under questioning Monday by Howe attorney Clark Brewster of Tulsa, Special
> Agent Peter Rickel stunned everyone when he reluctantly 
> admitted that the  man Elohim City cult members call "Grandpa" is 
> really a cooperating source  for the FBI. 
> 
> Millar's status as a confidential informant began in the fall of 1994. 
> The  FBI admitted in court that Millar was a paid confidential 
> informant,  although the amount of his paycheck was not revealed. 
> 
> When Rickel disclosed this startling information, a senior FBI agent 
> and  several U.S. attorneys bolted from the courtroom in an agitated 
> state. 
> 
> Millar's encampment was heretofore considered by experts in 
> domestic  terrorism to be the "Switzerland" of the neo-Nazi movement 
> in the United  States. 
> 
> Elohim City, a 1,000-acre area of rolling timberland, is the residence 
> of  some 80 followers. But more importantly, it has played host to some 
> of this  nation's most notable subversives. 
> 
> Thus Millar's position as a mole for the FBI could explain why the 
> compound  has never been raided.
> 
> Despite its use as a hideout for gunrunners, drug dealers, bank 
> robbers and  suspected members of the conspiracy that bombed 
> the Alfred P. Murrah  Federal Building in Oklahoma City, Elohim City 
> has enjoyed a reputation as  a place fugitives can live without fear 
> of arrest. 
> 
> In the weeks before the Oklahoma City bombing, BATF agent 
> Angela Findley  had planned to raid the compound and arrest its 
> security advisor, Andreas Carl Strassmeir. 
> 
> Strassmeir, an illegal alien who migrated to Elohim City from Germany, 
> was suspected by Findley of converting semi-automatic weapons to 
> machine guns as  well as plotting with other Elohim City residents and
> visitors to bomb federal installations. 
> 
> Carol Howe reported to Findley during the time she worked for the 
> BATF. 
> 
> Howe told Findley that Strassmeir was the ringleader in the plot to bomb 
> the Oklahoma City federal building and that Millar was preaching twice a 
> day to his flock that the group had to act by April 19, 1995, or they would 
> end up like the Branch Davidians in Waco. 
> 
> The arrest of Strassmeir was scrubbed after senior members of the 
> BATF, the FBI and the U.S. Attorney's office met in February, 1995 
> and discussed Findley's plan. 
> 
> Strassmeir was also an important source of intelligence for the U.S.
> government. 
> 
> In January, 1996, shortly after it was discovered that it was Strassmeir 
> that Timothy McVeigh had called for in the days before the bombing, the 
> German national fled to his native Berlin with the aid of German 
> intelligence officers. 
> 
> With Millar now exposed, the loss of Elohim City as a virtual nest of spies 
> for the U.S. intelligence community is almost assured. 
> 
> But such a loss could have consequences far beyond the obvious. 
> 
> If Millar was reporting a wider conspiracy to bomb the Oklahoma City 
> federal building, and those reports were not subsequently turned over to 
> Timothy McVeigh's defense team, then the withholding of such critical 
> information by the FBI could get McVeigh a new trial. 
> 
> Those reports, as well as Howe's, will likely be sought by the defense 
> teams for both McVeigh and Terry Nichols and may also be 
> subpoenaed by the grand jury <convened by my friend Charles Key> in Oklahoma
> City to investigate the bombing. 
> 
> Also those reports could prove important in several civil suits that are 
> pending against the government for its alleged failure to notify the 
> occupants of the Murrah building that there was a heightened risk of 
> danger on April 19, 1995. And Congress is also looking into the government's
> intelligence role in the bombing. 
> 
> Calls to the compound to get Millar's comments about the situation 
> were not returned. 
> 
> 
> 1. The Feds were particularly interested in a discovery motion that they 
> filed against the accused, Carol Howe. Howe it seems had the effrontery 
> to  tape many of her phone calls with Angela Findley, her ATF handler. 
> The  government would like to get copies of the tapes before Findley 
> goes on the stand and commits perjury. The Feds are very put out that 
> Ms. Howe would use their own tactics on them. 
> 
>     <Do We say: "Bravo, Carol!!" >
> 
> 2. The fed witnesses, while afflicted with a tremendous amount of 
> "earlier  onset of Alzheimer's" (as in "I don't recall...." and "I can't 
> >remember......") did spend an inordinate amount of time trying to 
> shield Unterscheissfuhrer Dennis Mahon of the White Aryan 
> Resistance from negative  allegations made by Carol Howe about 
> bomb making plans, components, etc.  "It was almost as if Mahon 
> was also a snitch, even though one FBI man  denied it on the stand," 
> said one witness in the courtroom when interviewed by  a reporter. 
> from the JDT.
> 
> Perhaps the Feds and Dennis have reached a "modus vivendi" with 
> each other on the subject of Carol Howe. 
> 
> 3. If Millar really was an FBI snitch/provocateur before the bombing, 
> that  would make most of the senior leadership at Elohim City at one 
> time or another to be Federales-- Millar, Ellison, Strassmeir, etc. Indeed, 
> not  even in Czarist Russia did the secret police send paid provocateurs 
> to  provoke other paid provocateurs. Elohim City can thus be seen in its 
> true  light-- not as an operation infiltrated and suborned by infiltrators--
>
> but  rather as a wholly-owned subsidiary of the FBI/ATF. This throws
> McVeigh's E.C. days in a whole new light. 
> 
> It also begs the question of what happens to Millar now... does he 
> face a new Night of the Long Knives when the E.C. "herrenvolk" find 
> their "Pastor" has been passing the plate to the Feds?? What, too, 
> will happen to Special  Agent in Charge Thomas Kukor of the OKC 
> FBI office? I guess we now know  what happened when he "sang in 
> the choir" on special trips to E.C. Was  Kukor playing "choirboy" or 
> bagman" for the coverup when he visited Elohim  City on his 
> "community outreach program?" 
> 
> One thing is certain: the FBI could open a new money-making 
> opportunity:  franchised "Rent-A-Nazi" outlets. They own so many of 
> them they might as  well put them to some use that doesn't get 
> buildings blown up and hundreds  of people killed.
> 
> With thanks to the JDT
> Roger Bunn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----------------------- Headers --------------------------------
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> Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 11:02:52 +0100
> To: TWStough@aol.com
> From: mihra@styx.cerbernet.co.uk (Roger Bunn)
> Subject: Yo Tel,
>  >>
>
>
>---------------------
>Forwarded message:
>From:	mihra@styx.cerbernet.co.uk (Roger Bunn)
>To:	TWStough@aol.com
>Date: 97-07-06 06:00:19 EDT
>
>did you know that in some parts of London Terry is shortened to Tel?
>
>                Relating to the Okla City dimension
>                and State terrorism.
>
>Tulsa-- Near pandemonium broke out in a federal courtroom here 
>Monday when a senior agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation shocked
>observers by telling the court that the spiritual leader of 
>Elohim City, the Rev. Robert Millar, was a confidential informant for 
>the FBI. 
>
>The McCurtain Daily Gazette has long been reporting that Elohim City 
>is a religious and paramilitary compound in east-central Oklahoma that 
>is frequented by some of the most dangerous members of the neo-Nazi 
>underground in the United States and Canada. 
>
>Although residents of the cult have continued to deny it publicly, the 
>Gazette has reported that its sources believe one of those shadowy 
>figures was Timothy McVeigh. 
>
>Stories published in this newspaper have also exposed Elohim City as 
>the  center of a wide-ranging conspiracy to overthrow the federal government
>by  members of a group called the Aryan Republican Army. 
>
>Several of those members have since been arrested on charges related 
>to a string of bank robberies across the midwestern United States. 
>
><Roger writes... One of these is a cross dressing (yes) skin head 
>known to her friends as "Donna". Enforcers mainly, probably into
>human sacrifice if not,  they certainly know where the bodies 
>are buried>
>
>The incredible revelation that the leader of Elohim City himself was 
>part of a government intelligence operation came during a pre-trial 
>hearing >associated with the upcoming trial of another confidential 
>informant and frequenter of the compound, Carol E. Howe. 
>
>
>Howe, a former Tulsa beauty queen, debutante and one-time paid undercover
>informant for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and 
>Firearms, is scheduled to stand trial later this month for conspiracy 
>charges associated with making bomb threats and possession of bomb-making
>components. 
>
>Howe was indicted shortly after the Gazette reported that she intended 
>to  be a key witness in the trial of Timothy McVeigh. 
>
>U.S. District Judge Richard Matsch, who presided over the McVeigh 
>trial,  refused to let Howe testify in Denver-- ruling that her information 
>that Elohim City was the center of the bombing conspiracy "might 
>confuse the  jury." 
>
>Under questioning Monday by Howe attorney Clark Brewster of Tulsa, Special
>Agent Peter Rickel stunned everyone when he reluctantly 
>admitted that the  man Elohim City cult members call "Grandpa" is 
>really a cooperating source  for the FBI. 
>
>Millar's status as a confidential informant began in the fall of 1994. 
>The  FBI admitted in court that Millar was a paid confidential 
>informant,  although the amount of his paycheck was not revealed. 
>
>When Rickel disclosed this startling information, a senior FBI agent 
>and  several U.S. attorneys bolted from the courtroom in an agitated 
>state. 
>
>Millar's encampment was heretofore considered by experts in 
>domestic  terrorism to be the "Switzerland" of the neo-Nazi movement 
>in the United  States. 
>
>Elohim City, a 1,000-acre area of rolling timberland, is the residence 
>of  some 80 followers. But more importantly, it has played host to some 
>of this  nation's most notable subversives. 
>
>Thus Millar's position as a mole for the FBI could explain why the 
>compound  has never been raided.
>
>Despite its use as a hideout for gunrunners, drug dealers, bank 
>robbers and  suspected members of the conspiracy that bombed 
>the Alfred P. Murrah  Federal Building in Oklahoma City, Elohim City 
>has enjoyed a reputation as  a place fugitives can live without fear 
>of arrest. 
>
>In the weeks before the Oklahoma City bombing, BATF agent 
>Angela Findley  had planned to raid the compound and arrest its 
>security advisor, Andreas Carl Strassmeir. 
>
>Strassmeir, an illegal alien who migrated to Elohim City from Germany, 
>was suspected by Findley of converting semi-automatic weapons to 
>machine guns as  well as plotting with other Elohim City residents and
>visitors to bomb federal installations. 
>
>Carol Howe reported to Findley during the time she worked for the 
>BATF. 
>
>Howe told Findley that Strassmeir was the ringleader in the plot to bomb 
>the Oklahoma City federal building and that Millar was preaching twice a 
>day to his flock that the group had to act by April 19, 1995, or they would 
>end up like the Branch Davidians in Waco. 
>
>The arrest of Strassmeir was scrubbed after senior members of the 
>BATF, the FBI and the U.S. Attorney's office met in February, 1995 
>and discussed Findley's plan. 
>
>Strassmeir was also an important source of intelligence for the U.S.
>government. 
>
>In January, 1996, shortly after it was discovered that it was Strassmeir 
>that Timothy McVeigh had called for in the days before the bombing, the 
>German national fled to his native Berlin with the aid of German 
>intelligence officers. 
>
>With Millar now exposed, the loss of Elohim City as a virtual nest of spies 
>for the U.S. intelligence community is almost assured. 
>
>But such a loss could have consequences far beyond the obvious. 
>
>If Millar was reporting a wider conspiracy to bomb the Oklahoma City 
>federal building, and those reports were not subsequently turned over to 
>Timothy McVeigh's defense team, then the withholding of such critical 
>information by the FBI could get McVeigh a new trial. 
>
>Those reports, as well as Howe's, will likely be sought by the defense 
>teams for both McVeigh and Terry Nichols and may also be 
>subpoenaed by the grand jury <convened by my friend Charles Key> in Oklahoma
>City to investigate the bombing. 
>
>Also those reports could prove important in several civil suits that are 
>pending against the government for its alleged failure to notify the 
>occupants of the Murrah building that there was a heightened risk of 
>danger on April 19, 1995. And Congress is also looking into the government's
>intelligence role in the bombing. 
>
>Calls to the compound to get Millar's comments about the situation 
>were not returned. 
>
>
>1. The Feds were particularly interested in a discovery motion that they 
>filed against the accused, Carol Howe. Howe it seems had the effrontery 
>to  tape many of her phone calls with Angela Findley, her ATF handler. 
>The  government would like to get copies of the tapes before Findley 
>goes on the stand and commits perjury. The Feds are very put out that 
>Ms. Howe would use their own tactics on them. 
>
>    <Do We say: "Bravo, Carol!!" >
>
>2. The fed witnesses, while afflicted with a tremendous amount of 
>"earlier  onset of Alzheimer's" (as in "I don't recall...." and "I can't 
>>remember......") did spend an inordinate amount of time trying to 
>shield Unterscheissfuhrer Dennis Mahon of the White Aryan 
>Resistance from negative  allegations made by Carol Howe about 
>bomb making plans, components, etc.  "It was almost as if Mahon 
>was also a snitch, even though one FBI man  denied it on the stand," 
>said one witness in the courtroom when interviewed by  a reporter. 
>from the JDT.
>
>Perhaps the Feds and Dennis have reached a "modus vivendi" with 
>each other on the subject of Carol Howe. 
>
>3. If Millar really was an FBI snitch/provocateur before the bombing, 
>that  would make most of the senior leadership at Elohim City at one 
>time or another to be Federales-- Millar, Ellison, Strassmeir, etc. Indeed, 
>not  even in Czarist Russia did the secret police send paid provocateurs 
>to  provoke other paid provocateurs. Elohim City can thus be seen in its 
>true  light-- not as an operation infiltrated and suborned by infiltrators-- 
>but  rather as a wholly-owned subsidiary of the FBI/ATF. This throws
>McVeigh's E.C. days in a whole new light. 
>
>It also begs the question of what happens to Millar now... does he 
>face a new Night of the Long Knives when the E.C. "herrenvolk" find 
>their "Pastor" has been passing the plate to the Feds?? What, too, 
>will happen to Special  Agent in Charge Thomas Kukor of the OKC 
>FBI office? I guess we now know  what happened when he "sang in 
>the choir" on special trips to E.C. Was  Kukor playing "choirboy" or 
>bagman" for the coverup when he visited Elohim  City on his 
>"community outreach program?" 
>
>One thing is certain: the FBI could open a new money-making 
>opportunity:  franchised "Rent-A-Nazi" outlets. They own so many of 
>them they might as  well put them to some use that doesn't get 
>buildings blown up and hundreds  of people killed.
>
>With thanks to the JDT
>Roger Bunn
>
>
>
>
>

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