Time: Tue Jul 08 04:08:12 1997 by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA02181; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 04:02:19 -0700 (MST) by usr01.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA02609; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 04:02:07 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 04:02:00 -0700 To: fwolist@sportsmen.net From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: fourteenth amendment [sic] This is not leadership. You are waiting for Godot. The more productive stance is to raise the matter in a jury trial, and petition a court of competent jurisdiction for declaratory relief from a qualified jury, on the following question: "Do the facts in evidence support a legal conclusion that the so-called fourteenth amendment [sic] was lawfully ratified or not?" This type of question was given to a common law jury near Sacramento about 2 years ago, and the verdict was "Yes" on the ratification of the original Thirteenth Amendment [sic]. I know an inactive bar member who argued for the government's position, and lost. After he lost, he still wanted to go back on active status with the California bar. Go figure! /s/ Paul Mitchell http://www.supremelaw.com At 08:54 PM 7/7/97 -0700, you wrote: >================[ Distributed Message ]================ > ListServer: fwolist (Free World Order) > Type: Not Moderated > Distributed on: 07-JUL-97, 20:54:18 >Original Written by: IN:noborders@worldnet.att.net. >======================================================= > > >When federal judges stop using the 14th amendment for authority, I will, >too. You can carry on a public relations campaign against the validity of >its ratification. I agree with that. I know if was ratified at the point >of a bayonet. But if you carry your public relations campaign against the >14th amendment into a courtroom, you are going to be fined. > So, maybe we should just type PR for those kind of posts in the subject >line and L in the posts that are about the law as it is. Just a suggestion >to allow free speech and avoid wasted bandwidth. > >| Objection. The so-called fourteenth amendment [sic] >| was never lawfully ratified. It's time we stopped >| referring to it as an authority for anything. >| >| /s/ Paul Mitchell >| http://www.supremelaw.com > >| >A while back in a post with the subject "His Honor" I distributed >| >information elucidating the origin of corporations in the law, our >relation >| >to them in the law, and how that relates to our present situation with >| >government. >| >I do not defend the system of legal citation. It is obscure. But, I >| >assure you the citations given were typed accurately enough (N.Y. = NY >for >| >pete's sake), that they can be found by people who can decode citations. >| >They came right from CJS as I said in the post. >| >The conclusions given immediately beneath the citations were those of >CJS. >| >If anyone can show that CJS is wrong in their conclusion regarding the >| >significance of a case, they should bring it forward because CJS is >heavily >| >relied on for its accuracy by people who make their living being accurate >| >in front of judges. >| >Finally, corporations were in the law before the 14th amendment. My post >| >had nothing whatever to do with citizenship or "state duality". >| >---------- > > > >======================================================================== >To subscribe: send a message to the fwolist@sportsmen.net >with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject/topic field. Use UNSUBSCRIBE to >remove yourself from the list. Questions/comments/problems? > email: Not Moderated@sportsmen.net or listmgmt@sportsmen.net >For info about this system and its lists email: info@sportsmen.net > >======================================================================== >via: Sportsman's Paradise~~Online 602-922-1639 - www.sportsmen.net > > > > ======================================================================== Paul Andrew Mitchell : Counselor at Law, federal witness B.A., Political Science, UCLA; M.S., Public Administration, U.C. Irvine tel: (520) 320-1514: machine; fax: (520) 320-1256: 24-hour/day-night email: [address in tool bar] : using Eudora Pro 3.0.3 on 586 CPU website: http://www.supremelaw.com : visit the Supreme Law Library now ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech, at its best Tucson, Arizona state : state zone, not the federal zone Postal Zone 85719/tdc : USPS delays first class w/o this As agents of the Most High, we came here to establish justice. We shall not leave, until our mission is accomplished and justice reigns eternal. ======================================================================== [This text formatted on-screen in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.]
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