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Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 19:45:53 -0700
To: mehmarbj@pacbell.net
From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
Subject: USELESS AMERICAN VOTER REALITY
References: <19970712.053012.3238.0.kilometers@juno.com>
 <33C85DAB.46F6@pacbell.net>
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I would NOT use a Notary, unless I also qualified
the declaration, as follows:

 "Purpose of Notary is for identification only,
  and NOT for entry into any foreign jurisdiction."

Now you are totally covered.

/s/ Paul Mitchell
http://www.supremelaw.com



At 05:07 PM 7/13/97 -0700, you wrote:
>PAM,
>
>David suggest using the Notary, however, I agree, an affidavit under
>P of P seems to do the trick.  For real important stuff I use a Notary,
>kinda like crossing your fingers . . .
>
>Bjorn
>
>//
>
>Paul Andrew Mitchell wrote:
>> 
>> Don't forget to subpoena the contract let to the
>> IRS by the State Tax Commission.  The IRS is inside
>> the several states under authority of 50 different
>> contracts, all of which appear to have started with
>> form letters, with blanks for the state-specific
>> information.  So, you can obtain that contract in
>> one of two places:  the Commissioner of Internal
>> Revene (one signatory), and/or the State Tax Commission
>> (the other signatory). The copy we have from Oklahoma
>> says "IRS" is an agency of the U.S. Department of
>> the Treasury, which is belied by Title 31, U.S.C. in toto.
>> 
>> For authority, see Tenth Amendment.  If you want us to
>> fax our copy to you, please be prepared to make a
>> donation;  we have overhead too.
>> 
>> Have fun!  I always do in these cases.
>> 
>> /s/ Paul Mitchell
>> http://www.supremelaw.com
>> 
>> p.s.  Dispense with the Notary.  Use 28 U.S.C. 1746(1)
>> instead;  it is supreme Law, pursuant to the Supremacy
>> Clause, and there is obviously here a provision which
>> extends this statute beyond the federal zone;  it is
>> subparagraph (1) supra.  Compare, in pari materia,
>> 18 U.S.C. 1512 and 1513.  Confer also at "Inclusio unius
>> est exclusio alterius" in Black's Law Dictionary.
>> 1746 smokes out the all-important distinction between
>> the federal zone and the state zone.  You never notarized
>> your tax returns before, did you?  Now you know why
>> (see 28 U.S.C. 1746(2)).
>> 
>> At 10:09 AM 7/13/97 -0700, you wrote:
>> >Miles,
>> >
>> >Did you subpoena the Commisioner of the IRS for the contract waiver? [the
>> >David Dodge shuffle is at paragraph *2* - if not, you loose], id est:
>> >
>> >Affidavit in Support of Subpoena Duces Tecum
>> >>
>> >> State of California)
>> >>              ss):
>> >> County of San Diego)
>> >>
>> >>        I, Jeffry C. Lorenz, Affiant, after first being duly sworn
according
>> >>        to law, being competent to testify, affirms under penalties of
>> >>        perjury, that the matters subject to this Subpoena Duces Tecum
>> >>        consist of the following:
>> >>
>> >> 1. The agent for the fictitious Plaintiff Paul J. Pfingst is
commanded to
>> >> prove the substantive fact of jurisdiction on the record as no
evidence of
>> >> a waiver nor contract between  Affiant and the County of San Diego
has been
>> >> entered into the record of this court.
>> >
>> >                   ************************
>> >
>> >> 2. The agent for the ficticious Plaintiff Paul J. Pfingst under the
>> >> accompanying Subpoena Duces Tecum is commanded to prove jurisdiction
on the
>> >> record by producing a CERTIFIED copy of any written instrument
wherein the
>> >> man Jeffry C. Lorenz has knowingly and intelligently executed a valid
>> waiver
>> >> of Jeffry C. Lorenz's unalienable right to life, liberty, and the
>> pursuit of
>> >> happiness; and, that said waiver includes the transfer of said rights to
>> the
>> >> County of San Diego/State of California/United States, Plaintiff,
>> Plaintiff's
>> >> heirs or assigns, by power of attorney or other written instrument; and,
>> that
>> >> said instrument(s) includes the specific authorization to punish, as
though
>> >> Jeffry C. Lorenz were but an errant slave, for acts or deeds which by
>> >> themself, lacked malice or caused harm to anyone or anyone's property.
>> >
>> >                  ******************************
>> >>
>> >> Further Affaint sayeth naught
>> >>
>> >>                                         Verification
>> >>
>> >>         I, Jeffry C. Lorenz, am the Affiant in the above entitled
>> Affidavit and
>> >> I have read the foregoing Affidavit and know the contents thereof.  The
>> same is
>> >> true of My knowledge, except as to those matters which are therein
>> alleged on
>> >> information and belief, and as to those matters I believe them to be
true.
>> >>         I certify under penalty of perjury the foregoing is true and
>> correct and
>> >> that this affidavit was executed on the Xth day of the Xth month, Anno
>> Domini
>> >> 1997 at a location known as San Diego, California.
>> >>
>> >> Dated: ___________________________________
>> >>
>> >> __________________________________________
>> >> Jeffry C. Lorenz
>> >> c/o 13019 Vista View Drive
>> >> Poway, CA 92064
>> >>
>> >> Before me _______________________________ a notary public for the
state of
>> >> California and authorized to administer oaths, appeared Jeffry C. Lorenz
>> and
>> >> after having identified himself to me and swearing to the truthfulness
>> of the
>> >> foregoing facts, placed his bona fide signature upon this document under
>> penalties
>> >> of perjury on this Xth day of XXXXX, 1997.
>> >>
>> >> _________________________________    Notary Signature
>> >>
>> >> My commission expires: _____________________________
>> >
>> >Obviously modify the above to suit the suit . . .
>> >
>> >When your beloved commissioner fails to respond then go after him/her for
>> contempt
>> >and sanctions . . .
>> >
>> >Bjorn
>> >
>> >//
>> >
>> >kilometers@juno.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I am in agreement with you on the futility of the voter situation and
>> >> understand that you are pretty much on point on the numbers concerning
>> >> "voter turnout".
>> >>
>> >> I know in reality that getting a Petition or Bill into Congress is at
>> >> most a vision or hallucination.  It's nice to dream though.
>> >>
>> >> I was hoping to stimulate some growth in the "idea" brainstorming arena
>> >> in order to come up with a way to shove the federal citizen crap down
the
>> >> federal governments throat.  I don't mind living by a set of
>> >> laws...........but to be put in a situation where the rich keep the poor
>> >> dumb.........if we the not so rich but somewhat cognitive of the present
>> >> and past and possibly future circumstances here in our country.......can
>> >> rise to the occasion........maybe all is not lost.
>> >>
>> >> You're about the only doggone winner I have ever seen.
>> >> But, this information isn't reaching the public at large.  No mass media
>> >> or mailings.  The people stay stupid.
>> >>
>> >> Since finding out how to beat speeding tickets I have personnally
>> >> followed at least a dozen people who I have seen pulled over for
speeding
>> >> ( as they would tell me later when I stopped them ) I have helped them
>> >> find a way to fight the cops.  I have recieved a couple of phone calls
>> >> and a couple of letters of thanks.  They actually won.  But, not
everyone
>> >> is instructed in law to carry a DMV two inch thick Code around with
them.
>> >>  I was told to carry one by the CHP officer who gave the course I went
>> >> to.  He instructed us in class to pull out the Code and challenge every
>> >> sight written for you.   Each of the people I told this to, now
carries a
>> >> DMV Code book around in their vehicles.
>> >>
>> >> Still need some brainstorming help.
>> >>
>> >> Still need to get the Federal Employer / Federal Employee information
>> >> arouind to the people at large for them to think about what benefits the
>> >> DB's are getting downtown and why they (the people at large) aren't
>> >> getting them - equally.
>> >>
>> >> All these taxfighters seem to give law in fifty directions that requires
>> >> someone versed in legal research to dig up.  What makes you taxable
is in
>> >> five directions and written  in five books in about ten paragraphs that
>> >> can be found in one trip to the law library and read in a few hours.
>> >> Pretty easy.  I mean........these are the laws the courts get thrown at
>> >> them all the time............so they clearly understand
>> >> them............why not use them to ones benefit.
>> >>
>> >> My idea is much simpler for the simple minded "GIVE ME SOMETHING"
Federal
>> >> citizen than the Library of Congress you must take into court to prove
>> >> you own no taxes.  Why not pay the tax..........and get your thirty days
>> >> paid vacation..........fifteen days paid sick time........all paid
>> >> federal holidays.........a good federal retirement you can live
>> >> on.........and so on????????
>> >>
>> >> I mean.........this is something that when you walk in to the court with
>> >> the actual law books and show the judge.........page by
>> >> page..........paragraph by paragraph..........line by line..........word
>> >> for word.............that you should be getting the very same benefits
>> >> and entitlements as the Public Servants who pursue the citizenry for
>> >> their monies....... there is no disputing the law as it is written.
>> >>
>> >> The IRS court  questions are always the
>> >> same...............................................
>> >> Is this your name on the complaint
>> >> form..................................YES
>> >> Do you have a form of I.D. such as a DMV License................YES
>> >> Do you have a social security
>> >> number.......................................YES
>> >> Do you or have you ever registered to
>> >> vote................................YES
>> >> Are you a U.S.
>> >>
>>
citizen.....................................................................
>> .YES
>> >> Are you a citizen of the State of
>> >> California..................................YES
>> >> Do you work for a company or
>> >> business...................................YES
>> >> Are you a licensed
>> >> business.......................................................YES or NO
>> >> Have you ever signed a W-4
>> >> Form..............................................YES
>> >> Have you ever signed a 1040
>> >> Form............................................YES
>> >> DO YOU EXPECT to draw social
security.................................YES
>> >>
>> >> IRS ANSWER::::::::::::::::::::
>> >> Your honor.............this person with all the above hasn't filed his
>> >> tax forms and the government has assessed him for $35,000 dollars for
the
>> >> past five years.  We ask the court for a judgement to compell this
>> >> taxpayer to pay his taxes.
>> >>
>> >> THE JUDGE:::::::::::::::::::::::
>> >> Pay up...............idiot.
>> >>
>> >> ME:::::::::
>> >> The people get slammed because they truly and honestly know nothing of
>> >> what's happening to them and if they do they understand NOThing as of
>> >> "WHY".  If we who kow...........don't stand up and tell
>> >> them............then we are just as guilty as the government for putting
>> >> the people in a no win situation.  If one sees a child being molested
and
>> >> do nothing..........one may as well have done the crime ones self.  If I
>> >> see my people being raped..............then I should either join in the
>> >> raping..........or I should stop it if I know it is
wrong.............and
>> >> we know it's wrong.  I would give my life for another's child as well as
>> >> my own.  In fact,,,,,,,,,I have saved a child's life in that order.  I
>> >> got hit by a city bus while throwing a three year old to the side on
>> >> Paradise Valley Road.  No news, no fame, no glory.  Just did what was
the
>> >> right thing to do.  Every year or two I still get  XMAS cards for it.
>> >> That happened in 1981.  I'm not forgotten and the child is growing to be
>> >> a good person.  If I had to do it again........I'd not think twice.  I'd
>> >> do the right thing.  For Free.
>> >>
>> >> MIles
>> >
>> >
>> 
>>
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Paul Andrew Mitchell                 : Counselor at Law, federal witness
>> B.A., Political Science, UCLA;  M.S., Public Administration, U.C. Irvine
>> 
>> tel:     (520) 320-1514: machine; fax: (520) 320-1256: 24-hour/day-night
>> email:   [address in tool bar]       : using Eudora Pro 3.0.3 on 586 CPU
>> website: http://www.supremelaw.com   : visit the Supreme Law Library now
>> ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech,  at its best
>>              Tucson, Arizona state   : state zone,  not the federal zone
>>              Postal Zone 85719/tdc   : USPS delays first class  w/o this
>> 
>> As agents of the Most High, we came here to establish justice.  We shall
>> not leave, until our mission is accomplished and justice reigns eternal.
>>
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>

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Paul Andrew Mitchell                 : Counselor at Law, federal witness
B.A., Political Science, UCLA;  M.S., Public Administration, U.C. Irvine

tel:     (520) 320-1514: machine; fax: (520) 320-1256: 24-hour/day-night
email:   [address in tool bar]       : using Eudora Pro 3.0.3 on 586 CPU
website: http://www.supremelaw.com   : visit the Supreme Law Library now
ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech,  at its best
             Tucson, Arizona state   : state zone,  not the federal zone
             Postal Zone 85719/tdc   : USPS delays first class  w/o this

As agents of the Most High, we came here to establish justice.  We shall
not leave, until our mission is accomplished and justice reigns eternal.
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