Time: Fri Jul 18 16:03:52 1997 by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02007 for [address in tool bar]; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 16:04:14 -0700 (MST) by usr01.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA05092; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 15:42:59 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 15:42:32 -0700 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: SLS: OKC-Eulogy: Wilburn (fwd) <snip> > >-------------------------------------- >TEXT OF MEMORIAL BULLETIN >-------------------------------------- > >IN MEMORY OF >GLENN DALE WILBURN >November 2, 1950 - July 15, 1997 > >SERVICES >Thursday, July 17, 1997 >City Church >10:00 a.m. > >OFFICIATING >Dr. Larry Jones > >PALLBEARERS >John Cash >Richard Reyna >Charles Key >Lynn Scott >Dennis Maley >Bruce Shaw > >INTERMENT >Rose Hill Burial Park >Oklahoma City, Oklahoma > >UNDER THE DIRECTION OF >Hahn-Cooke/Street & Draper >Funeral Directors > >* * * * * > >TRANSCRIPT OF REMARKS BY DR. LARRY JONES: > >I've known Kathy Wilburn for probably 25 years and this message that I'm >going to give this morning has been in the making since the Oklahoma City >bombing. I want you to know that it is not a normal funeral message because >before Glenn passed away, he and I talked. He had a lot to talk about. So >I trust this morning that the message that you hear, that you will remember >in your memory and mind that this is a message from Glenn Wilburn. > >A moment ago, we read from John that Lazarus, whom Jesus loved very much was >sick and they sent for him. He waited a few days, but when he got there >Lazarus had been buried. And Martha ran to him and she saw him and she >said, "If you had just been here, our brother would not have died." And >there's probably not anybody here who at some time or another has not had an >experience where we've said, "Now Lord, if you had just been here, this >wouldn't have happened." I'm sure there are people who have said, "Lord, if >you had been at the Murrah Building on April 19, 1995 at 9:02 a.m., you >wouldn't have let the bombing take place." How could an all-loving, >all-knowing, and all-powerful God permit that to happen? > >Everybody has a whine. And the best line is that of Henry Lowery (?) who was >a comedian and he learned that his son had been killed in France. He said, >"In times like this, there are three courses a person can take. First you >can become angry and you become bitter. Second, you can endeavor to drown >your sorrows in drink. Or thirdly, they may turn to God." > >Well, Glenn became very angry. He had lost his two grandchildren, Chase and >Colton. They were killed. I have worked in many, many disasters. I have >been in earthquakes, I've been in famines, I've been in floods, I've been in >many, many war scenes. And something I learned very quickly was after a >disaster takes place, sometimes there is a disaster after the disaster that >is just as painful. > >When Glenn realized that he was going to look into the Oklahoma City >bombing, he said to Kathy, he said, "Honey, I want to talk to you about this >because this is going to be really dirty." Kathy said, "Glenn, I know and >accept the heat." > >I think it has best been said of Glenn's feelings by reporter J. D. Cash in >his newspaper article where he said, "Glenn believed at least one of those >involved in the Oklahoma City bombing conspiracy was a government agent or >informant who was part of an operation by the ATF to entrap members of >various white supremacist organizations. 'There is much more involved here >than just executing Timothy McVeigh. There is the matter of bringing to >justice all of those involved who have yet to be indicted. And then there >is the matter of those in government who must answer for why they used my >grandchildren and five other persons as bait for a fool-hearted sting >operation. At some point I hope the facts about all of this will come out. >And when my goals are better understood, then maybe people will better >appreciate my methods.'" > >I went to an attorney, and I said, "Can you help me here? I'm not a >lawyer." And he said, "Well, let me say a couple of things to you." He >said, "Number one, there are good people in government, and under oath, they >will tell the truth. And there will be some who, being human, will not tell >the truth." But he said, "The truth will come out." But secondly he said, >"The government should not try to suppress this case on technicalities. A >government secure in what it had done should have no problem in giving full >knowledge of what it did." > >People ask, "Why don't Glenn and Kathy just let the government do the >investigating?" But you know, that's what they planned to do. And then >right after the bombing, there was a small meeting and one of the mothers >who had dropped off at the day care center said, "When I dropped my child >off, I saw the bomb squad." That mother lost her son in the bombing. > >An attorney who was running an errand that morning, he saw the bomb truck >and the trailer downtown. A private investigator en route to work saw the >bomb squad. And a lady who worked near the Murrah Building looked out the >window and she said to a Texas newspaper, "I saw the bomb squad and I said >to a co-worker, 'I wonder what's going on here. Well, we'll probably find >out soon enough.'" > >And then after the explosion, Glenn called downtown and asked, "Was there a >memo sent out prior to the bombing on April 19th?" He was informed that >there was not a memo sent out. He goes home, turns on the television, and >two hours later on CNN, the head of that department in Washington, D.C. >said, "Yes, a memo was sent out to federal offices because April 19th is a >red-letter day for many groups." > >And then of course, Glenn learned that Timothy McVeigh was in Arizona when >the bomb was supposed to be built. He also learned that Michael Fortier and >his wife had no alibi for April 16th through the 21st. > >And then so many people said, "Just wait for the trial and everything will >come out." > >There was not one person who saw Timothy McVeigh at the Murrah Building who >was in that trial in Denver, Colorado. And the reason was, every single >person who saw Timothy McVeigh saw somebody with him. > >Now, here is the question. Why do Americans not trust their government? >Chief Justice Earl Warren said on the assassination of John F. Kennedy, "We >may not know the whole story in our lifetime." And my question is, Why >won't we know the whole story of the assassination of the President of the >United States? > >My father-in-law and I watched Watergate day after day. And the classic >statement was, when asked a question, "At that point in time, I can't >remember what I said or what I heard." > >I just can't wait to hear somebody to stand up and say, "At that point in >time, I lied. At that point in time, I covered-up." > >Well, Glenn and Kathy were not alone because there have been a minimum of 68 >radio, TV and newspapers who have come to their home and said, "We, too, are >looking for the truth." > >You see, many people do not trust our government because on March 22, 1973, >Richard Nixon said to his staff concerning Watergate, "I want you to >stonewall." Less than a month later, he said to the press, "There will be >no whitewash at the White House." And then he said in an interview after he >was impeached [sic] and was out of office, these words: "When the President >does it, that means it's not illegal." > >We don't want to become a nation as Alexander Solzhenitzen said of the >former Soviet Union, "In our country the lie has become not just a moral >category, but a pillar of the state." > >When Glenn and Kathy started their investigation, they were told, "Now, >you're going to harm the trial in Denver." Friends stopped calling. One of >their best friends, Jannie Coverdale, disagreed with them. And just about >everything they did, they'd tape. > >And now stories are beginning to circulate. The stories are beginning to >change. One story that changed was changed because at the end of Kathy's >interview, that person said, "I am afraid of the bad guys, and I'm afraid of >the FBI." > >If I'm not mistaken, we are living in the United States of America, and this >frustrates me, what is taking place. Because you see, I spent considerable >time in the Soviet Union. I was in Poland. I experienced the regime of >Coceascu (sp?) in Romania. I got thrown out of Nicaragua. I got detained >in Ethiopia. And I saw the phenomenal fear that those people are living >under. And I am beginning to see that Americans are living under fear of >their government. And I don't think that we should fear our government, >nor should we fear each other. I thought that was what freedom was all about. > >I think Glenn's attitude can best be characterized by Elliott Rozell (?) in >his book, "The Town Beyond the Wall," as he talks about a Holocaust survivor >and a concentration camp inmate. This is what he says in this book from the >concentration camp. He said, "I want to blaspheme. I can't quite manage >it. I go up against God, I shake my fist, I froth with rage. But it's >still a way of telling God that He still exists and the shout becomes a >prayer in spite of me." > >Kathy told me that she understood Glenn's anger. And before he passed away, >we all agree, we know that stress and anger breaks down the immune system in >the body and that it's very possible in this case that the load that Glenn >Wilburn carried literally took him to the grave. It's like the old Russian >proverb that says, "The mind talks to the body, and the body talks to the >mind, and the end result is a fatal conversation." > >And so I said, "True, heart surgery may hurt, but it cures." I really >believe with all my heart, when Watergate happened, if President Nixon had >stood up and said, "Something very foolish has happened in my >administration. And since the buck stops here, I'm going to take full >responsibility and I apologize to the American people. And I assure you it >will never happen again," Watergate would have gone away. > >There's an African proverb that goes like this: "The lies of many will be >caught by the truth as soon as she rises up." And I guarantee you, when >lies rise up, truth rides sometimes a fast horse. > >I really believe after the Oklahoma City bombing, if our government had >stood up and said, "This is actually what happened...." I don't know all >the story because they haven't told all the story. The truth did not come >out in Denver. Had they said, "This is what happened...." I don't know if >they had any foreknowledge. I am told that they did. "And we were trying >to put people like this in jail. Something went wrong. And we apologize to >Oklahoma City and to the nation. We're sorry for what happened. We want >you to forgive us. And we work doubly hard so that it never happens again." > >Had THAT happened, I don't think we would be here today burying Glenn Wilburn. > >You see, this man was an accountant. Two plus two equals four. If he had >put on your tax return if he were doing it 2+2=5, there would have been a >knock at his door and they would have said, "Mr. Wilburn, would you give us >all of the papers that you have on Mr. So-and-so, all of the receipts. >We're trying to investigate this. We think a mistake has been made." And >Glenn Wilburn would have given everything over to them. > >Kathy and Edye, they worked at the IRS. They know the importance of truth. > >You see, Huxley said, "You shall know the truth and the truth shall make you >mad." > >As Glenn Wilburn began to find out the truth, it did make him mad. Glenn >Wilburn was not a member of the militia. He was not of any >white-supremacist group. He was not a member of the KKK or, to my >knowledge, of any other group other than Glenn Wilburn was an unregistered >member of the Happy Grandfathers' Club. He just loved to take his two >grandboys down to Coit's to get a frosty rootbeer. He was Kathy's knight in >shining armor. Glenn Wilburn was not a dumb okie. > >He believed the truth ____________ for our Lord said, "Ye shall know the >truth, and the truth shall make you free." > >Have you ever stopped for one moment and realized that the ethical standard >that George Washington put forth somehow got lost in history? When his >father asked him who cut down the tree, he said, "Pa, you know I can't tell >a lie. I cut it down with my hatchet." Now, if George Washington had said, >"Pa, I don't know who cut down the tree," then they'd have to get a special >investigator. Then they'd have to have hearings, and we'd have had to have >committees. > >Feed The Children received over 30,000 letters during the bombing. My wife >went through every single letter and card and reduced it down to 80 put >together that we'll call "Circle of Love." I think what this little girl, >whose name was Barbara, a fourth-grader, what she said, Glenn had in a >letter. [indiscernible] "...A tear rolled down my cheek. I start to think >of how the children ______. I start to ask God why He let them pass so >suddenly, but then I stopped and said, I said to myself, 'God didn't do >this. People on God's green earth did this sudden bomb.'" Then she says, >"I drifted off to sleep." > >I want you to know that Glenn worked through his anger to God. I asked >Kathy, I said, "What was the last thing you two did together?" And she >said, "The last thing Glenn and I did together was pray, and he prayed >first. Glenn prayed and he said, 'Lord, forgive me that I didn't become all >that you wanted me to be.'" > >I can't help but be reminded of the scripture in II Corinthians 5:10 that >says, "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each >one of us may receive the things done in the body according to what he has >done, whether it be good or whether it be bad." Ultimately truth will come >out. When? We don't know. > >[indiscernible] The scripture says, when Jesus was coming to Lazarus, that >Jesus wept. There are a lot of interpretations as to why he wept. Some say >that he was a friend to the family, and he was. But someone else said this: >he was weeping because he was getting ready to call Lazarus back from the >next life to this life. A doctor of cancer said, we're not in the land of >the living going to the land of the dying. We're in the land of the dying >going to the land of the living. And en route, Jesus comforted Mary and >Martha. And one of the things you always find about our Lord, he was always >entering the circle of suffering of those he converted. > >[PERSONAL REMARKS TO THE FAMILY MEMBERS BY NAME] > >Whatever the answer as to the why there is evil and suffering in the world, >this much is true. God took His own medicine. _________ When Jesus got to >the tomb, he said, "I am the resurrection and the life. He that liveth and >believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live." > >I want you to know Glenn is with Chase and Colton and with the Lord, and he >is literally waiting on you. > >Jesus called Lazarus out of the tomb. He said, "Loose him and let him go." >But he did something else, for he said, "I am the resurrection and the >life." Mary and Martha were also loosed. > >I'm not going to tell you that you're not going to cry, that you're not >going to have hard days, that you're not going to ask why. But I do want to >say this. ___________ We are loosed today because our Lord said, "You >shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." And so the >spiritual truth will set you free. > >This is not the end. Some say death is a comma that leads to a deeper kind >of life. And so we always come to the unanswered questions, the heartaches, >the rejection, all the pains of life. When Jesus went to see Mary, he >stepped in and said, "I am the resurrection and life. He that believeth in >me shall never perish." > >I want you to know something. Jesus Christ has that last word and that's >all we're going to say about it. Glenn became ill. Yes, he would like to >have lived. But he was ready to go because he believed in Christ who died >for his sins with simple childlike faith. He trusted him as his savior, and >as he went through all his life, he knew that when it came down to it, Jesus >Christ has and is the final answer. > >Let us pray. > >========================================================================== >[End of Transcript of Eulogy at Glenn Wilburn's Funeral] >========================================================================== > > > > > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >Unsub info - send e-mail to majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com, with >"unsubscribe liberty-and-justice" in the body (not the subject) >Liberty-and-Justice list-owner is Mike Goldman <whig@pobox.com> > > ======================================================================== Paul Andrew Mitchell : Counselor at Law, federal witness B.A., Political Science, UCLA; M.S., Public Administration, U.C. 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