Time: Mon Jul 21 16:10:53 1997 by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06166 for [address in tool bar]; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 15:22:59 -0700 (MST) by usr06.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA19005; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 15:14:59 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 15:14:29 -0700 To: liberty-and-justice@pobox.com From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: SLS: traffic citations are criminal in nature References: <3.0.3.16.19970721100235.325738e6@pop.primenet.com> All traffic violations are criminal. You must understand that from the outset. It is a criminal jurisdiction, using inland admiralty, which is compelled performance with a criminal penalty. Think of it as an equity contract, with criminal penalties for failure to perform. Your contract is with a de facto government corporation. For proof, compare 31 CFR 51.2 and 52.2 (becoming more scarce, since the E.O. by Clinton removing these regs from federal depository libraries). Notice "State" and "state"; there is a huge difference between the two: Thus, we have "Superior Court of Arizona" and "Superior Court of the State of Arizona". See the subtle difference? The de facto jurisdiction is invoked by the original application for driver's license and/or registration. For an excellent introduction, read "The Two United States and the Law" in the Supreme Law Library at the URL right beneath my name here: /s/ Paul Mitchell http://www.supremelaw.com At 01:50 PM 7/21/97 -0400, you wrote: >Exactly and if there is no victim there is NO CRIME and the victim must >press charges (unless it is murder of course) and I thought the plaintiff >had to be a person and could not be say the government. > > >> >> This is true, and more to the point, >> the police cannot stop you, unless there >> is a report of damage or injury -- >> no probable cause. >> >> /s/ Paul Mitchell >> http://www.supremelaw.com >> >> >> >> At 10:57 AM 7/21/97 -0400, you wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> >Unless you are conducting commerce with your car you cannot be conducting >> >interstate commerce. >> > >> >> >> >> At 08:49 AM 7/20/97 -0700, you wrote: >> >> >This is the main reason why registering your car >> >> >thrusts you into "interstate" commerce, whether >> >> >you like it or not. >> >> >> >> Could you please elaborate? >> >> >> >> Jim Bullock >> >> >> >> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> >> Unsub info - send e-mail to majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com, with >> >> "unsubscribe liberty-and-justice" in the body (not the subject) >> >> Liberty-and-Justice list-owner is Mike Goldman <whig@pobox.com> >> >> >> > >> >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> >Unsub info - send e-mail to majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com, with >> >"unsubscribe liberty-and-justice" in the body (not the subject) >> >Liberty-and-Justice list-owner is Mike Goldman <whig@pobox.com> >> > >> > >> >> ======================================================================== >> Paul Andrew Mitchell : Counselor at Law, federal witness >> B.A., Political Science, UCLA; M.S., Public Administration, U.C. 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