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From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
Subject: SLS: Holocost survivor interview (fwd)

>>                    OWNERSHIP MOVEMENT
>> Unlike many interviews with Holocaust survivors, this
>> one conducted by Aaron Zelman, founder, Jews for the
>> Preservation of Firearms Ownership (2872 S. Wentworth
>> Ave., Milwaukee, WI 53207; 414-769-0760; membership $20)
>> with Theodore Haas, a JPFO member and a former prisoner
>> of the infamous Dachau concentration camp, is a clear
>> warning to all freedom-loving peoples to keep our guard
>> up against arrogant politicians who are hell bent to
>> create governments that control our lives. In pre-Nazi
>> Germany, the good, law-abiding citizens dozed while
>> government passed laws (all purported to be for the
>> public good) that paved the way for tyrrany to flourish.
>> Haas, who survived years of Nazi persecutors, is speaking
>> out to Americans who are now dozing while our government,
>> at the strong urging of leftists in the media and others
>> in society they influence, passes laws (again supposidly
>> for the public good) to ban and severely restrict firearms
>> ownership. Theodore Haas believes gun control is a prelude
>> to totalitarian rule - The editors.
>> *******
>>Q.) How did you end up at Dachau? How old were you?
>>A.) November 9th, 1938 was Kristalnacht - The Night of Broken
>>Glass - The night Synagogues were ransacked and burned, Jewish
>>owned shops destroyed; I guess you could call it the night the
>>fires of hell engulfed the soul of humanity.
>>  I was arrested November 10th, "for my own personal security."
>>I was 21 years old. My parents were arrested and ultimately
>>died in a concentration camp in France. I was released from
>>Dachau in 1941, under the condition that I leave Germany
>>immediately. This was common procedure before the "Final
>>Q.) What did you think when you were sent to Dachau? What
>>did you know about Dachau beforehand?
>>A.) My first thoughts were those many others: "The world
>>has gone mad."
>>  I knew that the life expectancy at Dachau was relatively
>>short. I knew beforehand that inmates were abused. The horror
>>of Dachau was known throughout Germany. People (Germans)
>>use to frighten their childern, "If you do not behave, you
>>will surely end up at Dachau." A famous German comedian,
>>Weiss Ferdl, said "Regardless how many machine gun towers
>>they have around K.Z. Dachau, if I want to get in, I shall
>>get in." The Nazis obliged him; he died at Dachau.
>>Q.) How did you accept the fears of Dachau?
>>A.) Due to the constant hunger and extreme cold weather,
>>one becomes too numb to even think of fear. A prisoner
>>under these conditions becomes obsessed with survival;
>>nothing else matters.
>>Q.) What were the living conditions like in Dachau?
>>A.) We were issued one-quarter of a loaf of bread. That was
>>to last three days. In the morning, we picked up, at the
>>kitchen, a cup of roasted barley drink. There was no lunch.
>>At dinnertime, sometimes we got a watery soup with bits of
>>tripe or some salt herring and a boiled potato.
>>  Our prison clothes were a heavy, coarse denim. They would
>>freeze when they got wet. We were not issued hats, gloves or
>>  The first night, about 500 prisoners were stuffed into a
>>room designed to hold 50 (Believe me, it is possible).
>>Later on, we were forced to sleep on straw. As time went on,
>>the straw disintegrated and we became louse infested. The
>>guards delighted in making weak and ill-clothed prisoners
>>march or stand at attention in rain, snow, and ice for hours.
>>As you can imagine, death came often due to the conditions.
>>Q.) Do you have residual fears? How do you feel about German
>>A.) I have nightmares constantly. I recently dreamed that a
>>guard grabbed me. My wife's arm touched my face, and I
>>unfortunately bit her severely.
>>  German re-unification, in my opinion, will be the basis
>>for another war. The Germans, regardless of what their
>>present leadership says, will want their lost territories
>>back, East Prussia, Silesia, and Danzic (Gdansk). My family
>>history goes back over 700 years in Germany. I understand
>>all too well what the politicians do not want the people
>>to be thinking about.
>>Q.) You mentioned you were shot and stabbed several times.
>>Were these experements, punishment or torture?
>>A.) They were punishment. I very often, in a fit of temper,
>>acted "while the brain was not in gear." The sorry results
>>were two 9 mm bullets in my knees. Fortunately, one of the
>>prisoners had a fingernail file and was able to dig the
>>slugs out. In another situation, I was stabbed in the
>>washroom of room #1, Block 16. Twice in a struggle where
>>I nearly lost my right thumb. A German prisoner Hans Wissing,
>>who after the war became mayor of his home town, Leinsweiler,
>>witnessed the whole situation. We stayed in touch until a
>>few months ago, when he died.
>>Q.) Do you remember some of the steps taken by the Nazis to
>>de-humanize people and to make them feel hopeless? How were
>>people robbed of their dignity?
>>A.) If you had treated an animal in Germany the way we were
>>treated, you would have been jailed. For example, a guard
>>or a group of them would single out a prisoner and beat him
>>with canes or a club. Sometimes to further terrorize a
>>prisoner, the guards would form a circle around a prisoner
>>and beat him unconscious. There were cases of a prisoner
>>being told to report to the Revier ("Hospital") and being
>>forced to drink a quart of castor oil. Believe me, this is
>>a lousy, painfull, wretched way to die. You develop extreme
>>diarrhea, vomiting, nausea, and severe dehydration. If the
>>Nazis wanted you to live and suffer more, they would take
>>measures to rehydrate to victim.
>>Q.) What was the routine like at Dachau?
>>A.) Three times a day, we were counted. We had to carry the
>>dead to the square. Each time, we had to stand at attention
>>in all kinds of weather. We stood wearing next to nothing,
>>had weak bladders, while our tormentors had sheepskin coats
>>and felt boots. The bastards really enjoyed watching us
>>suffer. I remember how the guards had a good laugh when
>>one of them "accidentally" let loose with a machine gun,
>>killing about 30 prisoners.
>>Q.) What did people do to try to adjust to Dachau? Keep
>>their spirits up?
>>A.) There were some actors, comedians, and musicians among
>>us. Sometimes they would clandestinely perform. One of the
>>muscians got hold of a violin and played for us. To this
>>day, it remains a mystery how he got his hands on a violin.
>>I still keep in touch with other prisoners. I am a member of
>>the Dachau Prisoners Association. Each year I go back to
>>Germany to visit.
>>Q.) Did people ever successfully escape? Do you remember
>>acts of bravery?
>>A.) Nobody escaped, only in the movies does the "hero" escape.
>>Guards received extra leave time for killing prisoners that
>>got too close to the fence.
>>  I do, however, think all prisoners were heroes in their own
>>way. Especially the German prisoners, for they would not
>>acquiesce to the Nazis. They suffered greatly too.
>>Q.) Did the camp inmates ever bring up the topic, "If only
>>we were armed before, we would not be here now"?
>>A.) Many, many times. Before Adolph Hitler came to power, there
>>was a black market in firearms, but the German people had been
>>so conditioned to be law abiding, that they would never consider
>>buying an unregistered gun. The German people really believed
>>that only hoodlums own such guns. What fools we were. It truly
>>frightens me to see how the government, media, and some
>>police groups in America are pushing for the same mindset.
>>In my opinion, the people of America had better start asking
>>and demanding answers to some hard questions about firearms
>>ownership, especially if the government does not trust me to
>>own firearms, why or how can the people be expected to trust
>>the government?
>>  There is no doubt in my mind that millions of lives could
>>have been saved if the people were not "brainwashed" about
>>gun ownership and had been well armed. Hitler's thugs and
>>goons were not very brave when confronted by a gun. Gun
>>haters always want to forget the Warsaw Ghetto uprising,
>>which is a perfect example of how a ragtag, half-starved
>>group of Jews took up 10 handguns and made as**s out of
>>the Nazis.
>>Q.) Did you have any contacts with the White Rose Society
>>(mostly German students against Hitler)? Did anyone try
>>to hide you from the Nazis?
>>A.) I did not, but my local friend, Richard Scholl, had two
>>cousins or nephews who were members. Both were executed in
>>Munich (I believe) for standing up for decency and freedom.
>>Not enough people knew about the White Rose Society. There
>>were many non-Jews who were not anti-Semitic and were very
>>much opposed to Hitler.
>>  It was impossible to hide people from the Nazis in
>>Germany - it is so densely populated and food was rationed.
>>Another point that many people fail to understand is that
>>in Germany, you had a situation where the children were
>>reporting to their teachers if their parents listened to
>>the BBC on the short wave radio, or what they were
>>talking about at home. If a German was friendly to a Jew,
>>he was warned once. If he failed to heed the warning, he
>>would disappear and never be heard from again. This was
>>known as "Operation Night and Fog."
>>Q.) Do you think Anerican society has enough stability that
>>Jews and other minorities are safe from severe persecution?
>>A.) No. I think there is more anti-Semitism in America (some
>>of it caused by leftist Jewish politicians and organizations
>>who promote gun control schemes) than there was in Germany.
>>This may stun some people, but not all Germans hated Jews.
>>My best and devoted friends in Germany were Christians.
>>  I perceive America as a very unstable society, due to social
>>tinkering of the Kennedy/Metzenbaum-type politicians. When
>>I first came to this wonderfull country after World War II,
>>America was vibrant, dynamic and promising society. There
>>really was an American dream, attainable by those who wanted
>>to work. Now, due to the curse of Liberalism, America is
>>in a period of moral decline. Even worse, corrupt criminals
>>hold high political office, and you have police officials
>>who don't give a damn about the Bill of Rights. They just
>>want to control people, not protect and serve. When you
>>study history, you see that when a country becomes an
>>immoral manure heap, as America is rapidly becoming, all
>>minorities suffer, and ultimately, all the citizens.
>>Q.) What words of warning would you like to give to young
>>people who will soon be eligible to vote?
>>A.) Vote only for politicians who trust the people to own all
>>types of firearms, and who have a strong pro-Second Ammendment
>>voting record. Anti-gunownership politicians are very dangerous
>>to a free society. Liberty and freedom can only be preserved
>>by an armed citizenry. I see creeping fascism in America,
>>just as in Germany, a drip at a time; a law here, a law there,
>>all suposidly passed to protect the public. Soon you have total
>>enslavement. Too many Americans have forgotten that tyranny
>>often masquerades as doing good. This is the technique the
>>Liberal politicians/Liberal media alliance are using to
>>enslave America.
>>Q.) What message do you have for ultra-Liberal organizations
>>and individuals who want America disarmed?
>>A.) Their ignorance is pitiful - their lives have been too
>>easy. Had they experienced Dachau, they would have a better
>>idea of how precious freedom is. These leftist should leave
>>America. These Sarah Brady types must be educated to under-
>>stand that because we have an armed citizenry, that a
>>dictatorship has not yet happened in America. These anti-
>>gun fools are more dangerous to Liberty than street
>>criminals or foreign spies.
>>Q.) Some concentration camp survivors are opposed to gun
>>ownership. What message would you like to share with them?
>>A.) I would like to say, "You cowards; you gun haters, you
>>don't deserve to live in America. Go live in the Soviet
>>Union, if you love gun control so d--- much." It was the
>>stupidity of these naive fools that aided and abetted
>>Hitler's goons and thugs. Anti-gunownership Holocaust
>>survivors insult the memories of all those that needlessly
>>perished for lack of being able to adequately defend
>>Q.) It appears the Liberal left in America is tolerating,
>>and sometimes espousing anti-Semitism. Why do you think so
>>many Jews still support the leftist form of Liberalism?
>>A.) It is for this very reason that I firmly believe that we
>>harbor more stupid and naive people in our midst, than any
>>other group of people. It amazes me how Liberal Jews have
>>such short memories that today, they would be so supportive
>>and involved in setting up the mechanics of gun control, so
>>that a Holocaust can happen again. All they're doing is
>>playing into the hands of the very clever communists who
>>are masters at conning Americans.
>>Q.) Why did you join JPFO?
>>A.) I feel every Jew should be armed to the teeth, as should
>>every American. I joined JPFO because as a group, we can stand
>>up tp Liberal Jewish gun haters and also to Gestapo-minded
>>anti-gun police who want total control of the people. I wish
>>JPFO was in existance years ago. I believe the Jewish
>>involvement in gun control would not be anywhere close to
>>what it is today, but better now than never.
>>From Robert in Springfield-Missouri.  
>Freedom now days is a state of mind.
>Has anyone mentioned a soon-to-be maximum leader that will 
>soon descend on us or will that be briefly announced in the 
>A-section of some future Sunday morning paper?
>Just another day in paradise or is the "paradise"
>quickly disappearing or has disappeared
>and a many people haven't figured it out yet?
>Be watchful for the federal thought police and
>their evil associates--who may, someday,
>be coming soon your city, town, village or farm.
>Mail me with BCC: please, thank you.

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