Time: Sat Jul 26 09:06:34 1997 by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11976; Sat, 26 Jul 1997 08:58:28 -0700 (MST) by usr06.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA15431; Sat, 26 Jul 1997 08:57:57 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 08:57:23 -0700 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: SLS: Holocaust Survivor Denounces Anti-Gun Movement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <snip> > >HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR DENOUNCES ANTI-GUN OWNERSHIP MOVEMENT > >Unlike many interviews with Holocaust survivors, this one conducted by Aaron >Zelman, founder, Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership (2872 South >Wentworth Avenue, Milwaukee, WI 53207; 414-769-0760; membership $20) with >Theodore Haas, a JPFO member and a former prisoner of the infamous Dachau >concentration camp, is a clear warning to all freedom-loving peoples to keep >our guard up against arrogant politicians who are hell bent to create >governments that control our lives. In pre-Nazi Germany, the good, >law-abiding citizens dozed while government passed laws (all purported to be >for the public good) that paved the way for tyranny to flourish. Haas, who >survived years of Nazi persecutors, is speaking out to Americans who are now >dozing while our government, at the strong urging of leftists in the media >and others in society they influence, passes laws (again supposedly for the >public good) to ban and severely restrict firearms ownership. Theodore Haas >believes gun control is a prelude to totalitarian rule - The editors. > >Q.) How did you end up at Dachau? How old were you? > >A.) November 9th, 1938 was Kristalnacht - The Night of Broken Glass - The >night Synagogues were ransacked and burned, Jewish owned shops destroyed; I >guess you could call it the night the fires of hell engulfed the soul of >humanity. > >I was arrested November 10th, "for my own personal security." I was 21 years >old. My parents were arrested and ultimately died in a concentration camp in >France. I was released from Dachau in 1941, under the condition that I leave >Germany immediately. This was common procedure before the "Final Solution." >----------------------- >Q.) What did you think when you were sent to Dachau? What did you know about >Dachau beforehand? > >A.) My first thoughts were those many others: "The world has gone mad." >I knew that the life expectancy at Dachau was relatively short. I knew >beforehand that inmates were abused. The horror of Dachau was known >throughout Germany. People (Germans) use to frighten their children, "If you >do not behave, you will surely end up at Dachau." A famous German comedian, >Weiss Ferdl, said "Regardless how many machine gun towers they have around >K.Z. Dachau, if I want to get in, I shall get in." The Nazis obliged him; he >died at Dachau. >-------------------- >Q.) How did you accept the fears of Dachau? > >A.) Due to the constant hunger and extreme cold weather, one becomes too numb >to even think of fear. A prisoner under these conditions becomes obsessed >with survival; nothing else matters. >--------------------- >Q.) What were the living conditions like in Dachau? > >A.) We were issued one-quarter of a loaf of bread. That was to last three >days. In the morning, we picked up, at the kitchen, a cup of roasted barley >drink. There was no lunch. At dinnertime, sometimes we got a watery soup >with bits of tripe or some salt herring and a boiled potato. > >Our prison clothes were made from heavy, coarse denim. They would freeze when >they got wet. We were not issued hats, gloves or underwear. >The first night, about 500 prisoners were stuffed into a room designed to >hold 50 (Believe me, it is possible). Later on, we were forced to sleep on >straw. As time went on, the straw disintegrated and we became louse infested. >The guards delighted in making weak and ill-clothed prisoners march or stand >at attention in rain, snow, and ice for hours. As you can imagine, death >came often due to the conditions. >--------------------------- >Q.) Do you have residual fears? How do you feel about German re-unification? > >A.) I have nightmares constantly. I recently dreamed that a guard grabbed me. >My wife's arm touched my face, and I unfortunately bit her severely. >German re-unification, in my opinion, will be the basis for another war. The >Germans, regardless of what their present leadership says, will want their >lost territories back, East Prussia, Silesia, and Danzic (Gdansk). My family >history goes back over 700 years in Germany. I understand all too well what >the politicians do not want the people to be thinking about. >-------------------------------- >Q.) You mentioned you were shot and stabbed several times. Were these >experiments, punishment or torture? > >A.) They were punishment. I very often, in a fit of temper, acted "while the >brain was not in gear." The sorry results were two 9 mm bullets in my knees. >Fortunately, one of the prisoners had a fingernail file and was able to dig >the slugs out. In another situation, I was stabbed in the washroom of room >#1, Block 16. Twice in a struggle where I nearly lost my right thumb. A >German prisoner Hans Wissing, who after the war became mayor of his home >town, Leinsweiler, witnessed the whole situation. We stayed in touch until a >few months ago, when he died. >---------------------------- >Q.) Do you remember some of the steps taken by the Nazis to de-humanize >people and to make them feel hopeless? How were people robbed of their >dignity? > >A.) If you had treated an animal in Germany the way we were treated, you >would have been jailed. For example, a guard or a group of them would single >out a prisoner and beat him with canes or a club. Sometimes to further >terrorize a prisoner, the guards would form a circle around a prisoner and >beat him unconscious. There were cases of a prisoner being told to report to >the Revier ("Hospital") and being forced to drink a quart of castor oil. >Believe me, this is a lousy, painful, wretched way to die. You develop >extreme diarrhea, vomiting, nausea, and severe dehydration. If the Nazis >wanted you to live and suffer more, they would take measures to just postpone >dehydration of the victim. >-------------------------------- >Q.) What was the routine like at Dachau? > >A.) Three times a day, we were counted. We had to carry the dead to the >square. Each time, we had to stand at attention in all kinds of weather. We >stood wearing next to nothing, had weak bladders, while our tormentors had >sheepskin coats and felt boots. The bastards really enjoyed watching us >suffer. I remember how the guards had a good laugh when one of them >"accidentally" let loose with a machine gun, killing about 30 prisoners. >----------------------------- >Q.) What did people do to try to adjust to Dachau? Keep their spirits up? > >A.) There were some actors, comedians, and musicians among us. Sometimes they >would clandestinely perform. One of the musicians got hold of a violin and >played for us. To this day, it remains a mystery how he got his hands on a >violin. > >I still keep in touch with other prisoners. I am a member of the Dachau >Prisoners Association. Each year I go back to Germany to visit. >------------------------------- >Q.) Did people ever successfully escape? Do you remember acts of bravery? > >A.) Nobody escaped, only in the movies does the "hero" escape. Guards >received extra leave time for killing prisoners that got too close to the >fence. > >I do, however, think all prisoners were heroes in their own way. Especially >the German prisoners, for they would not acquiesce to the Nazis. They >suffered greatly too. >---------------------------------- >Q.) Did the camp inmates ever bring up the topic, "If only we were armed >before, we would not be here now"? > >A.) Many, many times. Before Adolph Hitler came to power, there was a black >market in firearms, but the German people had been so conditioned to be law >abiding, that they would never consider buying an unregistered gun. The >German people really believed that only hoodlums own such guns. What fools we >were. > >It truly frightens me to see how the government, media, and some police >groups in America are pushing for the same mindset. In my opinion, the >people of America had better start asking and demanding answers to some hard >questions about firearms ownership, especially if the government does not >trust me to own firearms, why or how can the people be expected to trust the >government? > >There is no doubt in my mind that millions of lives could have been saved if >the people were not "brainwashed" about gun ownership and had been well >armed. > >Hitler's thugs and goons were not very brave when confronted by a gun. Gun >haters always want to forget the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, which is a perfect >example of how a ragtag, half-starved group of Jews took up ten handguns and >made as**s out of the Nazis. >----------------------------------- >Q.) Did you have any contacts with the White Rose Society (mostly German >students against Hitler)? Did anyone try to hide you from the Nazis? > >A.) I did not, but my local friend, Richard Scholl, had two cousins or >nephews who were members. Both were executed in Munich (I believe) for >standing up for decency and freedom. Not enough people knew about the White >Rose Society. There were many non-Jews who were not anti-Semitic and were >very much opposed to Hitler. > >It was impossible to hide people from the Nazis in Germany - it is so densely >populated and food was rationed. Another point that many people fail to >understand is that in Germany, you had a situation where the children were >reporting to their teachers if their parents listened to the BBC on the short >wave radio, or what they were talking about at home. If a German was friendly >to a Jew, he was warned once. If he failed to heed the warning, he would >disappear and never be heard from again. This was known as "Operation Night >and Fog." >-------------------------------- >Q.) Do you think American society has enough stability that Jews and other >minorities are safe from severe persecution? > >A.) No. I think there is more anti-Semitism in America (some of it caused by >leftist Jewish politicians and organizations who promote gun control schemes) >than there was in Germany. This may stun some people, but not all Germans >hated Jews. > >My best and devoted friends in Germany were Christians. I perceive America >as a very unstable society, due to social tinkering of the >Kennedy/Metzenbaum-type politicians. When I first came to this wonderful >country after World War II, America was vibrant, dynamic and promising >society. There really was an American dream, attainable by those who wanted >to work. Now, due to the curse of Liberalism, America is in a period of moral >decline. Even worse, corrupt criminals hold high political office, and you >have police officials who don't give a damn about the Bill of Rights. They >just want to control people, not protect and serve. When you study history, >you see that when a country becomes an immoral manure heap, as America is >rapidly becoming, all minorities suffer, and ultimately, all the citizens. >----------------------------------- >Q.) What words of warning would you like to give to young people who will >soon be eligible to vote? > >A.) Vote only for politicians who trust the people to own all types of >firearms, and who have a strong pro-Second Amendment voting record. >Anti-gun-ownership politicians are very dangerous to a free society. Liberty >and freedom can only be preserved by an armed citizenry. I see creeping >fascism in America, just as in Germany, a drip at a time; a law here, a law >there, all supposedly passed to protect the public. Soon you have total >enslavement. Too many Americans have forgotten that tyranny often masquerades >as doing good. This is the technique the Liberal politicians/Liberal media >alliance are using to enslave America. >------------------------------------- >Q.) What message do you have for ultra-Liberal organizations and individuals >who want America disarmed? > >A.) Their ignorance is pitiful - their lives have been too easy. Had they >experienced Dachau, they would have a better idea of how precious freedom is. >These leftists should leave America. These Sarah Brady types must be educated >to under-stand that because we have an armed citizenry, that a dictatorship >has not yet happened in America. These anti-gun fools are more dangerous to >Liberty than street criminals or foreign spies. >---------------------------------- >Q.) Some concentration camp survivors are opposed to gun ownership. What >message would you like to share with them? > >A.) I would like to say, "You cowards; you gun haters, you don't deserve to >live in America. Go live in the Soviet Union, if you love gun control so d--- >much." It was the stupidity of these naive fools that aided and abetted >Hitler's goons and thugs. Anti-gun-ownership Holocaust survivors insult the >memories of all those that needlessly perished for lack of being able to >adequately defend themselves. >-------------------------------------- >Q.) It appears the Liberal left in America is tolerating, and sometimes >espousing anti-Semitism. Why do you think so many Jews still support the >leftist form of Liberalism? > >A.) It is for this very reason that I firmly believe that we harbor more >stupid and naive people in our midst, than any other group of people. It >amazes me how Liberal Jews have such short memories that today, they would be >so supportive and involved in setting up the mechanics of gun control, so >that a Holocaust can happen again. All they're doing is playing into the >hands of the very clever communists who are masters at conning Americans. >---------------------------------------- >Q.) Why did you join JPFO? > >A.) I feel every Jew should be armed to the teeth, as should every American. >I joined JPFO because as a group, we can stand up to Liberal Jewish gun >haters and also to Gestapo-minded anti-gun police who want total control of >the people. I wish JPFO was in existence years ago. I believe the Jewish >involvement in gun control would not be anywhere close to what it is today, >but better now than never. >----------------------------------------- > >Chris W. Stark >Gun Owners of America - Texas Representative > >E-mail: gunowner@onramp.net > >Visit our Web Page at: http://rampages.onramp.net/~gunowner >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >"No class or group or party in Germany could escape its share of >responsibility for the abandonment of the democratic Republic and the advent >of Adolf Hitler. The cardinal error of the Germans who opposed Nazism was >their failure to unite against it. .....the 63% of the German people who >expressed their opposition to Hitler were much too divided and shortsighted >to combine against a common danger which they must have known would overwhelm >them unless they united, HOWEVER TEMPORARY, to stamp it out." >================================================= >· William L. Shirer, author of "The rise and fall of the Third Reich" p.259 >.....they who do not learn from History are DOOMED to repeat it ! > > > ======================================================================== Paul Andrew Mitchell : Counselor at Law, federal witness B.A., Political Science, UCLA; M.S., Public Administration, U.C. Irvine tel: (520) 320-1514: machine; fax: (520) 320-1256: 24-hour/day-night email: [address in tool bar] : using Eudora Pro 3.0.3 on 586 CPU website: http://www.supremelaw.com : visit the Supreme Law Library now ship to: c/o 2509 N. 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