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Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 20:08:46 -0700
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From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
Subject: SLS: Epperly refutes 14th amendment (sic)
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Hi Ray et al.,
I would add to his arsenal, an argument
I have developed that is based on the
Full Faith and Credit Clause, to wit:
The Secretary of State has no authority
to base a certification on facts which
are NOT in evidence, any more than s/he
can deny certification in the face of
facts which ARE in evidence. These are two
sides of the same coin. In other words,
the truth should prevail: either the
several states voted in enough numbers,
or they did not.
We have a long tradition of providing
judicial review of adminstrative actions;
the ratification of amendments should be
no different, imho.
Perhaps, each state which votes on a
constitutional amendment, in the future,
should transmit its decision to all
other states in the Union, to make it
impossible for the Secretary of State
to lie about the results. Centralizing
the collection of these results has created
the opportunity for the Secretary to falsify
the results.
/s/ Paul Mitchell
http://www.supremelaw.com
At 08:46 PM 8/4/97 -0700, you wrote:
>
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>Paul Andrew Mitchell wrote:
>>
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>> I hereby submit two lasting solutions,
>> for everyone's careful consideration:
>>
>> #1: repeal the 14th amendment and replace it
>> with the following:
>>
>> "The status of State Citizenship shall not
>> be denied or abridged by the United States,
>> or by any State, on account of race.
>> The fourteenth article of amendment
>> to the Constitution of the United States
>> is hereby repealed."
>>
>> #2: amend the Guarantee Clause to read:
>>
>> "The United States shall guarantee equally to
>> the federal zone, and also to every State
>> in this Union, a Republican form of Government,
>> and shall protect both zones against Invasion;
>> and on Application of the Legislature, or of the
>> Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened)
>> against domestic Violence."
>>
>> /s/ Paul Mitchell
>> http://www.supremelaw.com
>>
>> At 07:08 PM 8/4/97 -0600, you wrote:
>> >
>> >-> SearchNet's SNETNEWS Mailing List
>> >
>> >>-> SearchNet's SNETNEWS Mailing List
>> >>
>> >>The Constutition, the "american way of life", the Government of the
people,
>> >>for the people and by the people, was built of and based on sound moral
>> >>ethics with it's roots strongly footed in a belief in God, Christ, the
Ten
>> >>Comandments, the Golden rule, the family -- Get my drift?? - Need I go
>> >>on?!!? We do not need to change our type of government - We need to put
>> the
>> >>type of people back in power that understand how to use the system the
>> way it
>> >>was intended !! I am not a "Bible thumper" by any means, those that
know me
>> >>will attest to that - no problem! What I am is awake and
pissed!!!!!!!!!!
>> >> Don't you dare F--K with my country's form of government!!!! You can
>> pie in
>> >>the sky about a new form of Government until time stops but you will
never
>> >>come close to what we have now! Just use the instruction manual we were
>> >>given as it was written - it does not need to be "interpeted" folks!
Do you
>> >>interpet the instruction manual for your microwave? I think not!!
>> >>
>> >>rod
>> >>
>> >>-> Send "subscribe snetnews " to majordomo@world.std.com
>> >>-> Posted by: RAmes0@aol.com
>> >
>> >As I stated before, "If the Constitution was so great, then why are we in
>> >the mess we are in?"
>> >
>> >So there are those who wish to "restore" the Constitution. One way would
>> >be to shoot all the bastards that anyone feels has tampered with the
>> >Constitution or, any public official that has dishonored it. Fine. They
>> >are all shot. O.K.
>> >
>> >What next?
>> >
>> >Well, we elect new officials that will follow the Constitution to the
>> >letter. [If they follow the Bill of Rights to the letter (for which I
have
>> >great respect), then we will be making progress. Much of the rest of the
>> >Constitution is a "Pandora's box" waiting to open.
>> >
>> >O.K. We have new officials that will follow the Constitution to the
>> >letter. Fine. Now our children are secure.
>> >
>> >But what about their children? Grandchildren?
>> >
>> >Is our country going to be in the same mess 50 or 100 years from now when
>> >later public officials once again learn how to corrupt the Constitution
for
>> >their own purposes?
>> >
>> >So, here we go again. In 50 or 100 years we must do it all again --- and
>> >meanwhile suffer the effects of such corruption in the intervening years.
>> >
>> >Is this the BEST we can do? For ALL TIME?
>> >
>> >One may say, but I don't care about 50 or 100 years --- I won't be around.
>> >
>> >It is precisely this attitude, in part, that has led us to where we are
>> today.
>> >
>> >I DO CARE about 50 or 100 years from now -- whether I'm around or not.
>> >
>> >I also care about 500 years from now.....1,000 years from now.
>> >
>> >It's coming, by the way. Just because you or I may not be there to see it
>> >does not render it any less important.....that is just an egotistical
>> >perspective. (i.e., the "world revolves around me -- after I die, all hell
>> >can break loose.")
>> >
>> >I have known people who have expressed this very opinion.
>> >
>> >This is one reason why we have "hell on Earth" in many respects.
>> >
>> >I'm interested in lasting solutions. I'm interested in the possibility of
>> >constructing a civilization that does not fall --- not next year, not
in 50
>> >years, not in 100 years, not in 1,000 years, not in 100,000 years, NOT
>> >EVER!
>> >
>> >I'm interested in a civilization that can last indefinitely --- that can
>> >evolve in a time scale equal to the duration of the universe -- however
>> >long that is.
>> >
>> >And such a civilization will require high physical, biological,
volitional,
>> >and sub-volitional technologies.
>> >
>> >But just because it won't be easy doesn't mean it can't be done.
>> >
>> >To paraphrase Thomas Paine, "'Tis dearness only that gives everything its
>> >value."
>> >
>> >Sincerely,
>> >
>> >Evan Soule'
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >-> Posted by: josephnewman@earthlink.net (Evan Soule)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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>
>Paul, Gordon Epperly of Juneau, Alaska, has gone to the National Archi-
> vist about the validity of the Fourteenth Amendment, and he quotes
> Article V of the Constitution, as:
>
> "The validity of A Constitutional Amendment DOES NOT IN ANY WAY
> depend upon the proclamation of the minister responsible for its
> issuance. It is satisfaction of the requirements of Artice V of
> the Constitution, that gives an amendment its force and effect.
> (Emphasis added)
>
>The Archivist is required to investigate any question under Section 106b
> of the U.S. Code, and this one has refused to do his job. Gordon
> is going to try to get a court order (since Writ of Mandamus has
> been eliminated) to get this guy to do his job. He is sending me
> his package on this and I will get back to you on it in a few days.
> I would like to get them backed into a corner where they have to
> admit that the 14th is a scam.
>
> Ray Earnest
>
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>-> Posted by: Ray Earnest <cen11156@mail.ld.centuryinter.net>
>
>
>
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Paul Andrew Mitchell : Counselor at Law, federal witness
B.A., Political Science, UCLA; M.S., Public Administration, U.C. Irvine
tel: (520) 320-1514: machine; fax: (520) 320-1256: 24-hour/day-night
email: [address in tool bar] : using Eudora Pro 3.0.3 on 586 CPU
website: http://www.supremelaw.com : visit the Supreme Law Library now
ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech, at its best
Tucson, Arizona state : state zone, not the federal zone
Postal Zone 85719/tdc : USPS delays first class w/o this
As agents of the Most High, we came here to establish justice. We shall
not leave, until our mission is accomplished and justice reigns eternal.
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