Time: Sat Aug 09 18:32:25 1997 by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA05588; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 18:33:02 -0700 (MST) by usr09.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA01533; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 18:30:52 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 09 Aug 1997 18:29:47 -0700 To: bobdj@djurdjevic.com From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: "The Arizona Republic" [sic] You are confusing "Arizona Republic" with "The Arizona Republic". They are not one and the same. The latter is a registered trademark; the former is not. /s/ Paul Mitchell http://www.supremelaw.com At 06:05 PM 8/9/97 -0700, you wrote: >Thought you'd be interested in my correspondence with James Hill, editor >of the OpEd pages (including the Sunday Perspectives section) of the >ARIZONA REPUBLIC. > >Should any of you wish to write to the AZR yourselves, let me explain >who the people on Hill's CC. list are: > > John Oppedahl is Publisher; > Pam Johnston is VP and Executive Editor; > Paul Schatt is Editor of Editorial Pages. > >One other data point - FYI: > >I know personally all these people (except for Pam J.). After our >(Truth in Media-organized) demonstrations (against the Bosnian war lies >and distortion) in front the ARIZONA REPUBLIC building in January 1993, >all editors have been quite reasonable and open-minded on most issues. >Except, it seems, when it comes to the question of the Holocaust not >being only a Jewish event. > >Best, > >Bob Dj. >Message-ID: <33ED0E03.3191@djurdjevic.com> >Date: Sat, 09 Aug 1997 17:40:35 -0700 >From: bobdj@djurdjevic.com >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: James.Hill@pni.com >CC: John_Oppedahl@pni.com, Pam_Johnson@pni.com, Paul_Schatt@pni.com >Subject: Reply to your letter of Aug. 8 >References: <072564ED.0075108C.00@PNI-NEWGATE.PNI.COM> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >James.Hill@pni.com wrote: >> >> Dear Bob: >> >> I will be to the point. >> >> About your letter to the editor, submitted to Paul Schatt on Aug. 4: >> >> One, there was absolutely no plagiarism, as you allege. The artist, working >> with me and the page designer, came up with the idea independently after I >> suggested the opening the vault theme. That Mike Keefe had a similar idea >> is not surprising; it is why Time and Newsweek often have similar covers. >> But Keefe's cartoons are not purchased by The Republic, and the Denver Post >> is not circulated within the newsroom, so it is only coincidental that Mr. >> Lopez and Mr. Keefe had like-drawings. (Another distinction: Mr. Lopez is a >> graphic artist assigned to The Republic's newsroom art department; Mr. >> Keefe is an editorial cartoonist. To compare an illustration with an >> editorial cartoon is to compare apples and oranges. >> >> You also allege Messrs. Weiss and Gati attempted to make a new case out of >> "an old extortion scheme called the Holocaust." That is inflammatory, as is >> your charge that Weiss repeated "an old chant that 'the Nazis murdered 6 >> million Jews.'" I am aware that the Holocaust numbers have changed >> (upward) considerably since the end of World War II (William Shirer put the >> figure, I believe, at from 4.5 million to 5 million in "The Rise and Fall >> of the Third Reich.") The 6 million figure is now considered authoritative >> and cited by such reference works as the Cambridge Encyclopedia. >> >> As to the rest of your letter, I think you know my work well enough to >> acknowledge that a constant theme of my writing -- and of many of the >> articles of which I have run, including yours -- has been to look at the >> horror of World War II in its entirety, lest we make the same mistakes >> again. I am personally offended by your comments that the Weiss and Gati >> pieces deliberately overlooked this: They did not; they looked at the issue >> of the Swiss acknowledgment that, after 50 years of denying the existence >> of the accounts, they indeed had money on deposit that belonged to Jewish >> Holocaust victims and their heirs. It is a simple case of focusing on the >> issue at hand -- one I believe you once begged of The Republic on the >> question of the Serbs during the war in Bosnia-Herzegovina. >> >> As to the Vatican issue, The Republic reported the story (based on one >> declassified document) and the Vatican issued a denial. This is not a >> deliberate media silence as you allege, but a case of too little >> information to do little with the story lacking other facts. (I might add >> that I am in the process of trying to get more facts on the issue, as I >> told one of your associates when he called me shortly after the story >> broke.) >> >> And finally, Paul decided he did not want to publish the letter based on >> the objections that I have cited above. There is no conspiracy to silence >> you; there is a requirement that editors use judgment, and in our judgment, >> the letter was not fit for publication. Hope this clears up the questions >> of your last correspondence. >> >> All the best, >> >> James >---------------------------------------------- > >August 9, 1997 > >TO: James Hill, ARIZONA REPUBLIC > >Subject: Your e-mail letter dated Aug. 8 >------------------------------------------------------------ > >Dear James, > >First, an overall comment: Your letter WAS a disappointment! (for the >first time since I've known you, which has been a goodly number of >years). > >All I tried to do in my Aug. 4-letter was tell the whole truth; show the >other side of the coin; inform the Arizonans and other Americans who >read your paper that, contrary to the establishment media propaganda, >the Jews weren't the only victims of WW II! > >And that the Jewish WW II survivers were the only ones who had profited >financially from the suffering of their brethren - by literally >extorting the money from the democratic post-war German governments >which had nothing whatsoever to do with the Nazis. > >[The total number of Jewish claimants was 4,344,378, according to the >German Information Center in NY. About 40% were in Israel, 20% in >Germany, and remaining 40% elsewhere in the world. As of 1981, some >99.8% of the claims had been settled, implying that some 87,000 Jews >were still receiving checks at that time.] > >And you call that "inflammatory?" You think that the families of >Americans who fought and died in WW II so as to save the Jews, among >others, don't deserve to know who profited from their sacrifices? And >that only the poor Jews who had no means of getting out were slaughtered >by Hitler? > >Meanwhile, you and the same "high-minded" AZR editors who want to >protect the fellow-Americans from such "inflammatory" truths, had no >problems aiding and abetting the New York bankers' latest extortion - >that of the Swiss banks - with whom the New Yorkers are in competition >in Europe. Didn't you know that three of the four top investment >bankers in Europe were the New York based merger and acquisition >dealers? And that the Swiss banks are their direct competitors (see >"Big Wall Street Banks Gallop In, Guns Ablaze," the NEW YORK TIMES, >7/13/97). > >Meanwhile, the same "high-minded" AZR editors who want to protect >Americans from the allegedly "inflammatory" truths, had no problems >printing the highly inflammatory (and often FACTUALLY WRONG!) >establishment media "news" and editorials which habitually DEMONIZED the >Serbs as a nation for the last 6-7 years. As I am sure you are aware, >the Serbian-Americans even had to stage a street protest in front of the >AZR building (in January 1993) before some form of balance was achieved >on the AZR editorial pages. > >And then there is that "minor" point of my letter - the disputed >Holocaust numbers. You say that you were "aware that the Holocaust >numbers have changed (upward) considerably since the end of World War >II." James, that makes your publishing the "PC" 6 million-figure an >even worse offence! You knew the figure was suspect, yet you still let >it be used without qualification or equivocation. > >Why? Because, "the 6 million figure is now considered authoritative and >cited by such reference works as the Cambridge Encyclopedia," you >explain. >"Considered authoritative" is equivalent of "politically correct." >Cambridge Encyclopedia is just one reference point. Neither Webster's >nor Oxford dictionaries (wisely) offer any numbers. Oxford doesn't even >mention "holocaust" in the context of WW II. >Now check out only some of the other reference points you or your >authors could have used, but chose not to: >--------- >Since 1945 there have been many conflicting claims concerning the >numbers of Jewish people (and others) who died at Auschwitz-Birkenau >(Oswiecim) concentration camp. However, it is only recent research and >access to hitherto unavailable documents, that these numbers have >drastically lowered, possibly indicating that more of our people >survived. Perhaps the 6 million often publicized (though our best figure >is 4.5 million) may also need to be revised lower, we hope. > Source: Dr. Nathan Nussbaum, Honorary Director, Center for >Jewish > Holocaust Studies. > > According to official documents in the French Republic (Institute for > the Examination of War-criminals) the number that died in Auschwitz > was: 8,000,000 > > According to the French daily newspaper 'Le Monde' (April 20, 1978): > 5,000,000 > > According to the memorial plaque on the gas-chamber monument at > Auschwitz-Birkenau (later removed in 1990 by the Polish Government): > 4,000,000 > > According to the 'confession' of Rudolf Hoess, the last commandant of > Auschwitz, q.v. interrogation record and written statement before > his 'suicide': 3,000,000 > > According to a statement by Yeduha Bauer, Director of the Institute for > Contemporary Jewry at the Hebrew University, Jerusalem: 1,600,000 > > According to 'Le Monde' (September 1, 1989): 1,433,000 > > According to Prof. Raul Hilberg (Professor for Holocaust Research, and > author of the book, 'The Annihilation or European Jewry', 2nd. ed., >1968: > 1,250,000 > > According to Polish historians, q.v. DPA - Report of July 1990 and > corresponding public announcements: 1.000,000 > > According to Gerald Reitlinger, author of 'Die Endlosung': 850,000 > > Published by the Board of Jewish Holocaust Studies, > P.O.B. 40, Summer Hill, NSW, 2130. AUSTRALIA. >------ > >What can else can one say after all this, James, but - "et tu, Brute?" >I would have never expected you and Paul Schatt to censor "un-PC" facts >or opinions as you did in this case. > >Bob Dj. > >-- >Bob Djurdjevic >TRUTH IN MEDIA >Phoenix, Arizona >e-mail: bobdj@djurdjevic.com > >LINKS: http://www.beograd.com/truth/ > (Truth in Media home page) > > http://www.forbes.com/tool/html/97/aug/returns0805/ > (Djurdjevic's August 1997 FORBES column, "The Japanese are > coming (maybe)" > > http://www.forbes.com/tool/html/97/july/returns0708/einstein.htm > (Djurdjevic's July 1997 FORBES column, "Move Over Einstein, > Signor Da Vinci Is Back") > > http://www.djurdjevic.com > (Annex Research home page) > ======================================================================== Paul Andrew Mitchell : Counselor at Law, federal witness B.A., Political Science, UCLA; M.S., Public Administration, U.C. 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