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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 17:05:29 -0700
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From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
Subject: L&J: blank postal money orders
References: <3405D386.1FD5CDE6@prodigy.net>
<199708281831.OAA02688@teaminfinity.com>
Howard Freeman discusses this issue
in some detail in the essay entitled
"The Two United States and the Law"
in the Supreme Law Library at URL
just below my name here:
/s/ Paul Mitchell
http://www.supremelaw.com
At 05:07 PM 8/28/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Zip codes are part of Postal Zones set up
>by the United States Postal Service which
>is a private corporation involved in commerce.
>If you use a zip code you are confirming you
>are in commerce and subject to the laws thereof.
>They do, IMHO, signify jurisdiction.
>
>All classes of mail, other than first class, are benefits
>granted by the USPS. A commercial entity. To
>take advantage of these benefits you must be
>involved in commerce.
>
>First Class mail is guaranteed by the Constitution
>Article I, Section 8, Clause 7. First Class mail is
>defined as mail delivered from one post office at
>general delivery to another post office at general
>delivery. Home delivery is a free benefit from
>the USPS. Again, commerce.
>
>This is only my understanding.
>
>Jim
>
>At 02:37 PM 8/28/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>Ralph wrote:
>>
>>> The only thing using a zip code does in terms of juristiction is
>>> NOTHING.
>>> In terms of speed of delivery, it SPEEDS it up, that is it !
>>
>>Ralph,
>>
>>You may have a point about the jurisdiction issue. I wouldn't know.
>>Others claim to know. Since it is not required, why bother? Didn't
>>they ever tell you not to volunteer for anything.
>>
>>Whether or not the ZIP Code speeds up the mail is kinda pointless
>>in my situation because, my mail is always promptly delivered. I've
>>never noticed my mail taking any longer than any one else's mail.
>>In fact, my parents live about 1500 miles away and it never takes
>>over three days. It's usually two days, depending on what time and
>>what day it gets sent.
>>
>>If the whole purpose of the ZIP Code is to speed up mail, then I
>>would assume that it would be mandatory. Any ideas as to why it
>>is mandatory for almost everything other than First Class mail?
>>We send more First Class mail than anything. Why not make
>>the ZIP Code mandatory on First Class mail? It's required on
>>standard mail (3rd and 4th class), merchandise returns, military
>>addresses, bulk-rate mail, all mail claimed at automation rates, mail
>>sent with stamps precanceled with bars, business reply mail, penalty
>>mail, on Periodicals when return service is requested, postal
>>cards and post cards mailed under specific First Class standards,
>>and Presorted First Class Mail. I guess they just forgot about
>>plain old First Class Mail. I doubt it. I don't claim to have the
>>answer but, it does make me wonder why it's not required
>>on my "typical" mail and it is required about everywhere else.
>>
>>Who has the answer? Speed of delivery is all I've heard
>>so far and that doesn't seem to be the case with my mail.
>>My non-ZIPed mail can't get any faster. It's already as fast
>>as ZIPed mail.
>>
>>Brooks Martin
>>
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