Time: Tue Sep 16 05:28:44 1997 by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA03538; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 03:51:02 -0700 (MST) id UAA08992; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 20:58:13 -0400 (EDT) id UAA08976; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 20:58:08 -0400 (EDT) id AA18328; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 20:58:05 -0400 by usr05.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA23914 for <snetnews@world.std.com>; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 17:58:01 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 17:57:50 -0700 To: snetnews@world.std.com From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: SNET: Sky Cities and Space Balloons. -> SearchNet's SNETNEWS Mailing List ... without such politeness and civility ...... we have ... government agents. Who else would tolerate Janet Reno for a boss? /s/ Paul Mitchell http://supremelaw.com At 05:20 PM 9/15/97 -0600, you wrote: > >-> SearchNet's SNETNEWS Mailing List > >>---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:44:33 -0400 >>From: Vik Olliver /NZ <vik@CompuServe.COM> >>To: BlindCopyReceiver: ; >>Subject: SNET: Sky Cities and Space Balloons. (fwd) >> >>>Evan Soule', a sensitive and shy representative of Joseph >>>Newman inventions has posted to other lists on a Newman Space >>>Balloon which works on advanced electromagnetic principles vs. >>>conventional propulsion. >> >>We've been through this one. The guy seems to have forgotten that when you >>get higher, the balloon will have less lift due to the thiner atmosphere. >>Eventually, the gas outside is less dense than the gas inside and the gas >>becomes a burden rather than an asset. Unless he can demonstrate his >>machinery lifting itself at ground level with no helium inside it, its a >>no-hoper. >> >>Vik :v) >> >>Over to you Evan. I don't think you are on Artemis but you are on >>Snetnews so maybe you can explain your "Electromagnetic Space Balloon" >>before experts. Frankly I don't think it will hold up (pun eh?) any more >>than your free energy machine (it was blown out of the water on USA-Tesla) >>but I'm all for a fair hearing. >>FWP. > > >Dear "FWP", > >Once again you demonstrate what I presume is your ignorance tempered by >your intellectual dishonesty. Joseph Newman has never termed his system a >"free energy machine" --- your characterization of same is indicative of >how little you understand the technology. Rather than endeavor to try to >sincerely learn and understand something, your modus operandi has been to >initiate hostility, attack, ridicule, and sarcasm. If your negative >mentality is any indication of the type of people destined for "False >Creek" (your "New Cities" 'project'), then the name of that location would >be most apropos. > >Also, you must have been on a different USA-Tesla list from the one with >which I'm familiar. Judging from the positive comments from those with >whom I've privately communicated via the USA-Tesla List, there has been >sincere interest in understanding the technology, despite the negative >ridicule and hostility engendered by your own posts and those of several >others. > >I will add that your statement above, "I'm all for a fair hearing" is sadly >mistaken at best and hypocritical at worst. Judging from your continued, >initiated, negative antics and hostility you are quite the opposite of >someone who is truly intellectually honest and values "fair hearings." > >Regarding the ELD (Electromagnetic Lift Device) and the comments of "Vik" >above: Joseph Newman has developed a system to accommodate the changing >relative gas densities between the interior of the Device and external >atmosphere as the Device rises. > >But of course, there are always those who are ready to pass judgement on >something without understanding it --- the mark of the intellectually >dishonest. > >I'll repeat what I wrote earlier: > >Anyone else who would like to discuss aspects of the ELD technology, may >directly contact me at my email address. > >__________________________________ > >Just a personal note and sincere suggestion to everyone else on these Lists: > >One of the obvious advantages of email communication afforded by high >technology is its immediacy in allowing strangers (as well as friends) to >communicate. One of the disadvantages of email communication is its >"one-dimensional" nature generally devoid of the more subtle connotations >of inflection and tone which are present in the spoken word. > >If I may suggest: because of such a "uni-dimensional" nature, it seems all >the more desirable that we (as hopefully civilized species' members) strive >for politeness and civility in our communication.... even with those with >whom we may happen to disagree. > >I realize that maintaining such civility is sometimes difficult with those >individuals who endeavor to engender hostility and create negativism as a >result of their own sub-volitional difficulties; however, by their own >initiated actions (of sarcasm, ridicule, insults, intellectual dishonesty, >etc.) they have repudiated any claim to the rightness of their position. > >However, without such politeness and civility (hopefully based upon mutual >respect regardless of whether one agrees or disagrees with another on a >given issue)...... >we have nothing. > >Very sincerely, > >Evan Soule' > > > > >-> Send "subscribe snetnews " to majordomo@world.std.com >-> Posted by: josephnewman@earthlink.net (Evan Soule) > > > ======================================================================== Paul Andrew Mitchell : Counselor at Law, federal witness B.A., Political Science, UCLA; M.S., Public Administration, U.C. 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