Time: Tue Sep 16 15:16:19 1997 by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA10213; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 15:16:06 -0700 (MST) id SAA25308; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 18:09:29 -0400 (EDT) id SAA25101; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 18:08:05 -0400 (EDT) id AA07692; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 18:07:34 -0400 by usr01.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA26202 for <snetnews@world.std.com>; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 15:06:51 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 15:06:40 -0700 To: snetnews@world.std.com From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: SNET: Oklahoma bombing crater? -> SearchNet's SNETNEWS Mailing List This would be consistent with my theory that the truck bomb was a pressure "trigger" which activated pressure-sensitive detonators that were were drilled into the building's bearing columns. Whether the Oklahoma grand jury will ever reach this question, is anybody's guess right now. They should be taking expert testimony on the over-pressures, and blast temperatures, that would be required to cut a structural steel I-beam, as if had been decapitated in one swift blow. The fertilizer truck theory does not "cut" it, if you will all please excuse the intentional pun. On another dimension: What I observe here is that state government officials are now colluding with federal government officials in this latest grand jury probe. One important lesson, therefore, is that the separation of powers that SHOULD exist between state and federal governments, appears to have broken down and been supplanted with a "coalition" (collusion?) of all government branches, both state and federal. This is not a healthy development, in our governmental structure, because it defeats the intentional benefits of "balanced" (read "off-setting") governmental forces. /s/ Paul Mitchell http://supremelaw.com At 01:38 PM 9/16/97 -0800, you wrote: > >-> SearchNet's SNETNEWS Mailing List > >I have looked at the very excellent views provided of the bombed-out Murrah >building and if there is a crater at all it is filled in with debris. This >would seem to suggest that (1) the crater was small, and/or (2) that the >truck bomb (if it occurred at all) happened FIRST, followed by explosions >WITHIN the building. H. Ayre > >---------- >> From: Tony F Sgarlatti <tfs@adc.com> >> To: tonys@the-truth.org >> Subject: SNET: Oklahoma bombing crater? >> Date: Tuesday, September 16, 1997 12:37 PM >> >> >> -> SearchNet's SNETNEWS Mailing List >> >> Recently I've been going over some early material I've >> collected from the bombing, and one includes some video >> footage I received from Charles Collins in 1995 where >> the narrator on the video is showing the early news >> footage of the helicopters flying overhead, and says >> the bomb crater was ACROSS THE STREET - where the black >> smoke was. I recall reading later that this was said >> to be burning tires or whatever, and being dismissed >> as relating directly to an explosion - only a side >> effect of the bombing. Anyone know FOR A FACT whether >> or not an explosion occurred across the street? >> >> Those of you who purchased an early "Cover-Up In >> Oklahoma" video from Jerry Longspaugh will note that he >> said there was NO CRATER and showed the video footage of >> news helicopters flying over the Murrah building and there >> apparently IS NONE. However, after talking to Jerry, he >> relayed to me that he received other information related >> to a crater and now acknowledges there was one - only he >> now states that it was smaller than the 8 foot deep, 35 >> feet wide crater that was reported by the media. Since >> that time, Longspaugh updated his video, and that updated >> version is the video I'm offering with my Oklahoma City >> Bombing Fact Pak (see URL in sig for more info). >> >> The Oklahoma State Fire Fighters have a www site that >> has many photos of the Murrah building from April 19, >> 1995. You may want to look at these yourself and see >> if you can confirm a crater or not. >> >> Concerning a bomb crater in front of the building, look >> closely at - >> http://sparky.fireprograms.okstate.edu/OCFD/jpeg/da47_lg.jpg >> >> You will see a clear indentation, and possibly some liquid >> in this indentation amid debris. Could this be the elusive >> bomb crater not seen by the news helicopters? I almost >> missed it - its nearly camouflaged - but clearly(?) not >> 8 feet deep and 35 feet wide. >> >> Here is another photo of this same area - >> http://sparky.fireprograms.okstate.edu/OCFD/jpeg/da10_lg.jpg >> >> Another angle - >> http://sparky.fireprograms.okstate.edu/OCFD/jpeg/da12_lg.jpg >> >> Comments? >> >> In freedom, >> >> Tony Sgarlatti >> tonys@the-truth.org >> Oklahoma City Bombing Information Center >> http://www.future.net/~thetruth/okc.html >> >> -> Send "subscribe snetnews " to majordomo@world.std.com >> -> Posted by: tfs@adc.com (Tony F Sgarlatti) >> > >-> Send "subscribe snetnews " to majordomo@world.std.com >-> Posted by: "Henry Ayre" <henri@Alaska.NET> > > > ======================================================================== Paul Andrew Mitchell : Counselor at Law, federal witness B.A., Political Science, UCLA; M.S., Public Administration, U.C. 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