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Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 14:14:29 -0700
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From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
Subject: SLS: Where are Janet Reno's credentials? (fwd)
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It's a constitutional requirement, and
a failure to take the oath is grounds
for ouster by Quo Warranto proceedings.

/s/ Paul Mitchell
http://www.supremelaw.com




At 01:06 PM 8/6/97 -0700, you wrote:
>I didn't know FOIA could be used to get certified documents.  It
>doesn't say that in the act, that I can see.
>
>Steve Washam
>
>Tue, 05 Aug 1997 19:15:02 -0700
>Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] wrote:
>>Paul Mitchell's comments infra:
>>
>>
>>At 10:21 PM 8/2/97 -0700, you wrote:
>>>Fri, 25 Jul 1997 15:11:21 -0500
>>>        Brooks Martin <haze11@PRODIGY.NET> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Some of you may find this interesting. Those of you who have spoken to
>>>>Mr. Mitchell know he is  _very_  passionate about his beliefs. I took
>>>>the
>>>>time to verify some of this story myself. Especially the part about
>>>>redirecting the FOIA request for Janet Reno's credentials etc. from the
>>>>Dept. of Justice to the PUBLIC LIBRARY(?)  This is true folks, if you
>>>>submit a FOIA request to the Dept. of Justice for a copy of Janet Reno's
>>>>sworn oath of office and her other credentials you will be refered to
>>>>the
>>>>Public Library. Don't ask why. I don't have that info yet.
>>>
>>>Here's my guess.
>>>
>>>The FOIA officer is _interpreting_ the Mitchell's request to be
>>>a request for the _text_ of the oath, rather than a copy of the
>>>Reno's executed oath.  That information will be found in the US
>>>Code, available in the public library.
>>
>>
>>Not true.  We have received many copies of
>>executed Appointment Affidavits from the
>>Department of Justice.  We have found all
>>of them to be unacceptable, because our
>>FOIA requests specifically required
>>_certified_ copies of said Affidavits.
>>
>>DOJ now refuses to certify these crucial
>>documents.  Therefore, the photocopies
>>which they do send out, are not admissible
>>and, for this reason, are essentially worthless.
>>
>>The end result is being litigated right now,
>>as I write this, before the 8th Circuit,
>>because a failure to produce evidence of a
>>proper oath of office is grounds for ouster
>>by Quo Warranto.  The 8th Circuit now
>>knows this, because we have told them so.
>>
>>/s/ Paul Mitchell
>>http://www.supremelaw.com
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Because _part_ of the information is available elsewhere under
>>>this _interpetation_, they are using it as a slimy excuse to can
>>>the entire request.
>>>
>>>Just a guess, which is not as interesting as some thoeries.
>>
>>Nice guess, but we are way beyond "guessing"
>>at this stage of the game.
>>
>>One of the main reasons why I believe they
>>are now stalling in the face of these
>>FOIA requests for credentials, is that
>>we took the next step in the Grand Jury
>>case in Arizona last year.  Once an
>>Appointment Affidavit is entered into
>>evidence, using Rule 201(d) of the
>>Federal Rules of Evidence, for example,
>>the Constitution and its exact provisions
>>become a matter of evidence, and of equity.
>>
>>I have made no secret of my intentions to
>>sue out the exact provisions of the
>>Constitution which is mentioned in the
>>language of 5 U.S.C. 3331, which language
>>is repeated on these Appointment Affidavits.
>>Here is the question we plan to put to a
>>competent and qualified jury, for example:
>>
>>"Do the facts support a legal conclusion
>> that the 16th amendment was not lawfully
>> ratified?"
>>
>>A jury can be convened to issue declaratory
>>relief on this subject, but the jury should
>>be one convened under state law, because
>>28 U.S.C. 2201 has a bar against declaratory
>>judgments, when the subject matter is federal
>>income taxes.  The state courts have original
>>jurisdiction, pursuant to the explicit Reservations
>>which Congress attached to the two human Rights
>>treaties now on the books.  Treaties are supreme
>>Law, pursuant to the Supremacy Clause.
>>
>>/s/ Paul Mitchell
>>http://www.supremelaw.com
>>
>>
>>  But
>>>it's important to sytematically eliminate the possibilities in
>>>this FOIA game, as I understand it.
>>>
>>>A more specific and limited request might turn the trick.  At
>>>least they could not refer you to the library.
>>>
>>>Bureaucrats have difficulty answering more than one question at
>>>a time, in my experience.
>>>
>>>Steve Washam
>>>
>>>###
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Just a thought, what if items 1-5 of the Freedom of Information Act
>>>>Request, contained below, don't exist. Why is the Dept. of Justice
>>>>stating  that the request designated organizations OUTSIDE of the
>>>>Depatment of Justice? Why does the reply from the Dept. of Justice
>>>>also state that the FOIA/PA request apply only to the records and
>>>>agencies within the Executive Branch of the Federal Government?
>>>>Are we to conclude that Janet Reno is part of an agency outside
>>>>of the Executive Branch of the Federal Government?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Brooks Martin
>>>>
>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>Paul Andrew Mitchell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Brooks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I faxed to her, and to the White House,
>>>>> a NOTICE OF SPECIFIC INTENT TO EXECUTE
>>>>> CITIZEN'S ARREST, AND DEMAND FOR IMMEDIATE
>>>>> RESIGNATION, several weeks ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> /s/ Paul Mitchell
>>>>> http://www.supremelaw.com
>>>>>
>>>>> At 01:32 PM 7/25/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>>>> >Paul,
>>>>> >
>>>>> >I was wondering if you had followed up on this already. BTW, the
>>>>> >MIME encoding works fine on my end.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Regards,
>>>>> >Brooks Martin
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>Submitted to the LRT list by a member of that list. These were
>>>>originally
>>>>sent by Paul Mitchell to another list I believe. I'm not sure.
>>>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I have executed FOIA requests for the official credentials
>>>>> >> of the alleged Attorney General of the United States, Janet
>>>>> >> Reno.  My original request was dated May 2, 1997; appeal
>>>>> >> dated May 17, 1997 and Courtesy Notice dated May 27, 1997.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> The following letter was posted to me on May 29, 1997.
>>>>> >> This constitutes the respect our Just-Us Department has
>>>>> >> for *their own* federal laws.  Pay careful notice to where
>>>>> >> they directed me to "resubmit" the FOIA request.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> ---
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> U.S. Department of Justice
>>>>> >> Washington, D.C.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> May 28, 1997
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> [my name]
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Dear [me]:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Your Freedom of Information Act/Privacy Act (FOIA/PA)
>>>>> >> request was received by this office which serves as the
>>>>> >> receipt and referral unit for FOIA/PA requests addressed
>>>>> >> to the Department of Justice.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> The Freedom of information and Privacy Act apply only to
>>>>> >> the records of agencies within the Executive Branch of
>>>>> >> the Federal Government.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Your request designated organizations outside of the
>>>>> >> Department of Justice and will have to be resubmitted by
>>>>> >> you directly to them.*
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Sincerely,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> /s/ Betty S. Clark for
>>>>> >> Benjamin F. Burrell, Director
>>>>> >> Facilities and Administrative
>>>>> >>   Services Staff
>>>>> >> Justice Management Division
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> *Public Library
>>>>> >>  Tucson, Arizona  85719
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> ---end of letter---
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> [This text is formatted in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.]
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> -----------------------------cut here----------------------------
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                                              c/o 2509 N. Campbell
>>>>> >>                                          Tucson [zip code exempt]
>>>>> >>                                                  ARIZONA REPUBLIC
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                                                       May 2, 1997
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT REQUEST
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Disclosure Officer
>>>>> >> Office of the Attorney General
>>>>> >> Department of Justice
>>>>> >> 10th and Constitution, N.W.
>>>>> >> Washington [zip code exempt]
>>>>> >> DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Subject:  Credentials of Janet Reno [sic]
>>>>> >>           "Attorney General" [sic]
>>>>> >>           Department of Justice
>>>>> >>           Washington, D.C.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Dear Disclosure Officer:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> This is  a request under the Freedom of Information Act, 5 U.S.C.
>>>>> >> 552 et seq., and regulations thereunder.  This is My firm promise
>>>>> >> to pay  fees and  costs for locating, duplicating, and mailing to
>>>>> >> Me certified copies of the records requested below.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> If some of this request is exempt from release, please furnish Me
>>>>> >> with those  portions  reasonably  segregable.    I  am  requiring
>>>>> >> certified copies  of the documents requested, in lieu of personal
>>>>> >> inspection of same.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Admissible documents requested:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>      1.   Certified copy  of the  solemn oath  of office  of  one
>>>>> >>           named Janet  Reno, as  required by 5 U.S.C. 3331 and by
>>>>> >>           Article VI,  Clause 3,  of  the  Constitution  for  the
>>>>> >>           United States of America, as lawfully amended.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>      2.   Certified copy of her fidelity bond or surety bond.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>      3.   Certified copy of her Appointment Affidavit, signed and
>>>>> >>           witnessed, for  the position  she currently  claims  to
>>>>> >>           occupy.  (This is an OMB-approved form.)
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>      4.   Certified copy  of the  formal delegation of authority,
>>>>> >>           beginning with  the President, linking all officials in
>>>>> >>           the chain  of command  between him and the position she
>>>>> >>           currently claims to occupy.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>      5.   Certified copy  of her  license to  practice law in the
>>>>> >>           District of Columbia, if any.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> The requested  records are  not exempt  from  disclosure  because
>>>>> >> they:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                      [Please see next page.]
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> -----------------------------cut here----------------------------
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>      (A)  could not  reasonably be expected to interfere with law
>>>>> >>           enforcement proceedings;
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>      (B)  would not  deprive a  person of a right to a fair trial
>>>>> >>           or an impartial adjudication;
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>      (C)  could not  reasonably  be  expected  to  constitute  an
>>>>> >>           unwarranted invasion of personal property;
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>      (D)  could  not  reasonably  be  expected  to  disclose  the
>>>>> >>           identity of a confidential source;
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>      (E)  would not  disclose techniques  and procedures  for law
>>>>> >>           enforcement investigations  or prosecutions,  and would
>>>>> >>           not   disclose    guidelines   for    law   enforcement
>>>>> >>           investigations or prosecutions;
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>      (F)  could not  reasonably be  expected to endanger the life
>>>>> >>           or physical safety of any individual.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                                         [see Exemption 7 in FOIA]
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> If you  are not  the correct  person  to  whom  this  Freedom  of
>>>>> >> Information Act  Request should be directed, kindly forward it to
>>>>> >> the correct person.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Time is  of the  essence.   If you  have any questions about your
>>>>> >> rights and  obligations under 5 U.S.C. 552, may we recommend that
>>>>> >> you contact  the office  of the  Attorney General  in Washington,
>>>>> >> D.C., for immediate assistance.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Please see  U.S. Postal  Service Publication  #221 for addressing
>>>>> >> instructions.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Thank you  very much  for your consideration, and for your timely
>>>>> >> obedience to  the controlling  laws in  this matter, specifically
>>>>> >> the Freedom  of Information  Act and  the  Constitution  for  the
>>>>> >> United States of America, as lawfully amended.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Respectfully submitted,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> /s/ [me]
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Citizen of Arizona state
>>>>> >> all rights reserved without prejudice
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> copy:     Janet Reno
>>>>> >>           Department of Justice
>>>>> >>           10th and Constitution, N.W.
>>>>> >>           Washington
>>>>> >>           DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                              #  #  #
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> -----------------------------cut here----------------------------
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                                              c/o 2509 N. Campbell
>>>>> >>                                             Tucson, Arizona state
>>>>> >>                                                   zip code exempt
>>>>> >>                                                      May 17, 1997
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                 FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT APPEAL
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Disclosure Officer
>>>>> >> Office of the Attorney General
>>>>> >> Department of Justice
>>>>> >> 10th and Constitution, N.W.
>>>>> >> Washington [zip code exempt]
>>>>> >> DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Dear Disclosure Officer:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> This is an appeal under the Freedom of Information Act.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On  May 2, 1997, I  requested  documents  under  the  Freedom  of
>>>>> >> Information Act (see attached).  To date, the requested documents
>>>>> >> have not been produced.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I hereby appeal your failure to produce the requested documents.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> The documents that were withheld must be disclosed under the FOIA
>>>>> >> because the  original Thirteenth  Amendment  prevents  government
>>>>> >> officials from exercising privileges of a nobility class, such as
>>>>> >> being exempt  from the  principles of open government and freedom
>>>>> >> of information.   Evidence  of the  original Thirteenth Amendment
>>>>> >> has been filed with the Foreperson of the Grand Jury and with the
>>>>> >> Clerk of  the United  States District  Court in  Tucson,  Arizona
>>>>> >> state (a Republic).  See also Colorado Records Custodian.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Disclosure of  the documents  which I  requested is in the public
>>>>> >> interest because the information, and the procedure for obtaining
>>>>> >> the information, are likely to contribute significantly to public
>>>>> >> understanding of  the operations and activities of government and
>>>>> >> are not primarily in My commercial interest.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Moreover, the  information requested  will help to improve public
>>>>> >> confidence  in  the  integrity  of  the  United  States  (federal
>>>>> >> government), or  to confirm  that there are persons attempting to
>>>>> >> exercise executive  and judicial branch powers in America without
>>>>> >> any authority or jurisdiction whatsoever.  See U.S. v. Lopez.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Thank you for your careful consideration of this appeal.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Respectfully submitted,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> /s/ [me]
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Citizen of Arizona state
>>>>> >> all rights reserved without prejudice
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                              #  #  #
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> -----------------------------cut here----------------------------
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                                              c/o 2509 N. Campbell
>>>>> >>                                          Tucson [zip code exempt]
>>>>> >>                                                  ARIZONA REPUBLIC
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                                                      May 27, 1997
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                          COURTESY NOTICE
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Janet Reno
>>>>> >> U.S. Department of Justice
>>>>> >> 10th and Constitution, N.W.
>>>>> >> Washington [zip code exempt]
>>>>> >> DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Subject:  FOIA request and appeal
>>>>> >>           for your credentials
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Dear Ms. Reno:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> This is  a courtesy notice to you, and to all of those government
>>>>> >> officers, employees,  and agents  who rely upon formal delegation
>>>>> >> of authority  from the  office of  the U.S.  Attorney General  to
>>>>> >> perfect their  actions  under  authority  of  the  United  States
>>>>> >> (federal government),  that the  final deadline for production of
>>>>> >> your official  credentials will fall on  Monday,  June  2,  1997,
>>>>> >> at 5:00 p.m.  Notice to principals is notice to agents.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Our original  request for  your credentials  was submitted to you
>>>>> >> via first  class  United  States  Mail  on  May 2, 1997  pursuant
>>>>> >> to the  Freedom of Information Act ("FOIA"), 5 U.S.C. 552 et seq.
>>>>> >> Our  administrative  appeal  for  said  credentials,  given  your
>>>>> >> failure to  produce same  in response to Our proper request dated
>>>>> >> May  2, 1997,  was  submitted  to  you  via  first  class  United
>>>>> >> States Mail on May 17, 1997.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> The final  deadline for  production of your official  credentials
>>>>> >> falls  officially  on  June 2, 1997 at  end  of  the working  day
>>>>> >> (5:00  p.m., Eastern Standard Time).  Beyond  that  deadline, Our
>>>>> >> administrative   remedies  will  have  been  exhausted,  and  the
>>>>> >> doctrine of estoppel by acquiescence  will be activated formally,
>>>>> >> finally, and forever.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> If I  need to  explain to  you the far-reaching implications that
>>>>> >> will issue  from your failure to produce, among other things, the
>>>>> >> Oath of  Office required  of you  by Article VI, Clause 3, in the
>>>>> >> Constitution for  the  United  States  of  America,  as  lawfully
>>>>> >> amended, then  Our nation  is in  much worse  shape than  I  ever
>>>>> >> thought possible heretofore.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Respectfully submitted,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> /s/ [me]
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Citizen of Arizona state
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>                              #  #  #
>>>>> >>
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>>>>> Paul Andrew Mitchell                 : Counselor at Law, federal
>>>>> witness
>>>>> B.A., Political Science, UCLA;  M.S., Public Administration, U.C.
>>>>> Irvine
>>>>>
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>>>>> now
>>>>> ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech,  at its
>>>>> best
>>>>>              Tucson, Arizona state   : state zone,  not the federal
>>>>> zone
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>>>>>
>>>>> As agents of the Most High, we came here to establish justice.  We
>>>>> shall
>>>>> not leave, until our mission is accomplished and justice reigns
>>>>> eternal.
>>>>> ========
>>>>> ===============================================================
>>>>> [This text formatted on-screen in Courier 11, non-proportional
>>>>> spacing.]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>========================================================================
>>Paul Andrew Mitchell                 : Counselor at Law, federal witness
>>B.A., Political Science, UCLA;  M.S., Public Administration, U.C. Irvine
>>
>>tel:     (520) 320-1514: machine; fax: (520) 320-1256: 24-hour/day-night
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>>website: http://www.supremelaw.com   : visit the Supreme Law Library now
>>ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech,  at its best
>>             Tucson, Arizona state   : state zone,  not the federal zone
>>             Postal Zone 85719/tdc   : USPS delays first class  w/o this
>>
>>As agents of the Most High, we came here to establish justice.  We shall
>>not leave, until our mission is accomplished and justice reigns eternal.
>>========================================================================
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>
>
>

========================================================================
Paul Andrew Mitchell                 : Counselor at Law, federal witness
B.A., Political Science, UCLA;  M.S., Public Administration, U.C. Irvine

tel:     (520) 320-1514: machine; fax: (520) 320-1256: 24-hour/day-night
email:   [address in tool bar]       : using Eudora Pro 3.0.3 on 586 CPU
website: http://www.supremelaw.com   : visit the Supreme Law Library now
ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech,  at its best
             Tucson, Arizona state   : state zone,  not the federal zone
             Postal Zone 85719/tdc   : USPS delays first class  w/o this

As agents of the Most High, we came here to establish justice.  We shall
not leave, until our mission is accomplished and justice reigns eternal.
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