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From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
Subject: L&J: NEED HELP WITH W-4
References: <971001172026_149930283@emout09.mail.aol.com>

"I hear."  

Does this not render it hearsay, then?

/s/ Paul Mitchell
http://supremelaw.com



At 07:57 AM 10/2/97 -0400, you wrote:
>
>
>use of a W-8 by a citizen is FRAUD pure and simple I hear.
>
>	ralph
>
>
>
>> 
>> 
>>  Dear Friends of Freedom & Justice,
>> 
>>     A close friend has asked me for advice on filing
>>  a substitute form W-8 in lieu of the W-4. He obtained
>>  a form from an unknown source and asked me for
>>  if the form was sufficient for his purpose. Anyone
>>  who can offer some help or advice on using this form
>>  would be most appreciated.
>> 
>>  The information  contained on the form, and signed
>>  under penalties of perjury, is as follows:
>> 
>>      ***********************************************
>> 
>> Sub. Form W-8  Certificate of Foreign Status
>> For Department of the Treasury
>> Internal Revenue Service
>> 
>> Name
>> 
>> Current mailing address, if different from permanent
>> address (Include apt. or suite no., or P.O. box if
>> mail is not delivered to street address.)
>> 
>> City, town or post office, state, and ZIP code (If
>> foreign address, enter city, province or state,
>> postal code, and country.)
>> 
>> Certification.-- I solemnly swear under penalty of
>> perjury, adhering to the laws of the United States
>> of America, that I am an exempt foreign person, not
>> subject to any backup withholding.
>> 
>> ___________________________________________________________________________
>> Signature              Date
>> 
>> General Instructions
>> 
>> Purpose
>> 
>> Use Form W-8 or a substitute form containing a
>> substantially similar statement (affidavit) to
>> tell the workplace, payer, mortgage interest
>> recipient, middleman, broker, or barterer that
>> you are an exempt foreign person not subject
>> to backup withholding rules or certain U.S.
>> information return reporting rules.
>> 
>> Exempt Foreign Person
>> 
>> An exempt foreign person is not required to provide
>> information to his workplace or other payer as to
>> why he or she is exempt from all withholding. The
>> signing of this affidavit (as seen below) is sufficient
>> evidence that he or she is an exempt foreign person
>> within the meaning of Internal Revenue Code. The payer
>> must accept this signed affidavit as being a valid
>> representation of this person's status. Note: All
>> persons are subject to all perjury laws, and may be
>> prosecuted for false statements made on this form.
>> The workplace, or other payer, is completely free
>> from liability when using this form.  The person's
>> signed oath constitutes as acceptance of full
>> responsibility and liability for the accuracy of
>> everything stated herein.
>> 
>> U.S. Taxpayer Identification Numbers
>> 
>> Internal Revenue laws requires that certain income
>> be reported to the Internal Revenue Service using a
>> U.S. taxpayer identification number (TIN). This number
>> can be a social security number assigned to individuals
>> by the Social Security Administration or an employer
>> identification number assigned to businesses and other
>> entities by the Internal Revenue Service.
>> 
>> Exempt foreign persons signing this affidavit are
>> not required to have, or provide to the workplace
>> or other payer, a social security number or other
>> taxpayer identification number.
>> 
>> Filing Instructions
>> 
>> When To File.---File Form W-8 or substitute form
>> before a payment is made. This form may be used by
>> any person who is exempt from backup withholding.
>> It must be used in place of Form W-4. Note: Do not
>> file a Form W-4 for an exempt foreign person signing
>> this affidavit.
>> 
>> Where To File.---File this form with the workplace
>> or other payer who is the withholding agent (see
>> Withholding Agent below).  Keep a copy for your
>> own records.
>> 
>> Instructions to Withholding Agents
>> 
>> Withholding Agent.---Generally, any person required
>> to withhold tax is a withholding agent. A withholding
>> agent may be an individual, trust, estate, partnership,
>> corporation, government agency, association, or
>> tax-exempt foundation.
>> 
>> Retention of Statement.--Keep Form W-8 or substitute
>> form in your records for at least four years following
>> the end of the last calendar year during which the
>> payment is paid or collected. Withholding.---This
>> signed Form W-8 or substitute is an affidavit that
>> this person is exempt from all withholding.  This
>> includes, but is not limited to, federal and state
>> taxes, local taxes, medicare, social security, or
>> any other generally assumed withholding.  This person
>> is to receive a "gross payment" and is personally
>> responsible for any possible tax liabilities.
>> 
>> The use of this form does not preclude a person from
>> voluntarily allowing withholding for the payment of
>> medical/dental benefits, investment programs, or any
>> other commodities offered by the withholding agent
>> on a volunteer basis.
>> 
>> Note: Exemption from withholding does not necessarily
>> exempt this person from the annual tax liability.
>> 
>>   *************************************************
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for your input and God bless,
>> 
>>  patriotz@aol.com (Ted Pedemonti)
>> 
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