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Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 13:59:51 -0700
To: snetnews@world.std.com
From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
Subject: SNET: WAKE UP CALL, NOT DEATHKNELL...


->  SearchNet's   SNETNEWS   Mailing List

My point goes way beyond what you insinuate here.

You claim to have knowledge of the man's motives,
and yet you were not there, and you have never
met the man.  

Is that correct?  Or is that not correct?

I am all ears.

Your comments indicate that you may have fallen
victim to the ecological fallacy.

There are times when the Internet is even
less reliable than television's evening news.

I believe this is one of those times.

My "doubts," such as they are, stem from the
fact that the dots on my monitor are not
one and the same with the real human being
whose name is Jack McLamb.

I should hope all of us are capable of
making this basic distinction.  If not, 
then we are all in a whole lot more trouble 
than I ever imagined.

/s/ Paul Mitchell
http://supremelaw.com



At 12:16 PM 10/22/97 -0800, you wrote:
>
>->  SearchNet's   SNETNEWS   Mailing List
>
>
>> From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
>> To: snetnews@world.std.com
>> Subject: SNET: WAKE UP CALL, NOT DEATHKNELL...
>> Date: Wednesday, October 22, 1997 11:52 AM
>> 
>> 
>> ->  SearchNet's   SNETNEWS   Mailing List
>> 
>> I'll be the first to admit that I am
>> not a witness, nor an eyewitness, to
>> any of the events in Roby.  Are you?
>
>Most people are NOT eyewitnesses to MOST
>events. If one had to be an eyewitness to 
>hold and to express an opinion, then public
>discourse simply would not exist. Thus,
>this criticism is frivolous.
> 
>> I know Jack well enough to give him
>> the benefit of the doubt.
>
>Most of us have the benefit of NOT knowing
>Jack McLamb. Thus we are not swayed by personal
>attachments, rather we can judge purely on the
>flow of events. In any case, you admit that a 
>doubt DOES exist about McLamb.
>
>  Evidently,
>> others are unwilling to do so.  That
>> is their choice, if they do not wish
>> to do so.
>> 
>> Your sarcasm is inappropriate, imho.
>
>I am rarely sarcastic and events must be
>pressing to cause me to resort to sarcasm.
>Thus, I assume my sarcasm was very well
>utilized. H. Ayre.
>
>> 
>> There are plenty of people with a
>> "motive" to vilify Jack McLamb;
>> that much I CAN prove.
>> 
>> /s/ Paul Mitchell
>> http://supremelaw.com
>> 
>> 
>> At 02:06 PM 10/22/97 EDT, you wrote:
>> >
>> >->  SearchNet's   SNETNEWS   Mailing List
>> >
>> >Mitchell, why don't you jusy ask Mclamb to marry you? He's a cop and
>> >therefore........he's a gutless coward and a bully. That's why people
>> >become cops, they need the badge so they can act like men, and still
>have
>> >something to hide behind because they know they're not. 
>> >On Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:36:21 -0700 Paul Andrew Mitchell
>> >[address in tool bar] writes:
>> >>
>> >>->  SearchNet's   SNETNEWS   Mailing List
>> >>
>> >>I think the writer below would be
>> >>a whole lot more honest, and brief,
>> >>if he just came out and insulted
>> >>Jack McLamb publicly.  
>> >>
>> >>Why beat around the bush, if this 
>> >>is his real purpose.
>> >>
>> >>Confer at "Ecological fallacy"
>> >>in any reference work on social
>> >>science research methdology.
>> >>
>> >>Jack was a cop, therefore ...
>> >>... therefore WHAT?
>> >>
>> >>TILT!
>> >>
>> >>/s/ Paul Mitchell
>> >>http://supremelaw.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>At 11:15 AM 10/21/97 -0700, you wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>->  SearchNet's   SNETNEWS   Mailing List
>> >>>
>> >>>Henry Ayre wrote:
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> ->  SearchNet's   SNETNEWS   Mailing List
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> A few hours ago someone opined that the McLamb/Johnson fiasco 
>> >>sounded the
>> >>>> deathknell of the Patriot movement. Was this really a Patriot who 
>> >>suggested
>> >>>> that? Shirley Allen is just one incident in a long line of abuses 
>> >>of
>> >>>> citizens by authoritarian figures. What went wrong? Lack of 
>> >>individual
>> >>>> determination (with the exception of the other Shirley who was 
>> >>arrested)
>> >>>> and the desire to be led... sheeplike. And, of course, a thoroughly 
>> >>poor
>> >>>> choice of leaders in the first place.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> What to do? Quit? Or fix it since it is certainly broken? I would 
>> >>say, fix
>> >>>> it! Apparently there are a number of people who would be willing to 
>> >>"do the
>> >>>> walk to Shirley's place," but they would like it to be a 
>> >>coordinated
>> >>>> effort. Is this really all that hard to organize in this age of 
>> >>electronic
>> >>>> communications? What am I missing here?  H. Ayre.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> -> Send "subscribe   snetnews " to majordomo@world.std.com
>> >>>> ->  Posted by: "Henry Ayre" <henri@Alaska.NET>
>> >>>
>> >>>I would say that the incident spells the deathknell to cop 'leaders' 
>> >>in
>> >>>     the patriot movement, and not the movement itself.  I would like 
>> >>to
>> >>>     repeat myself here, for the umpteenth time; cops - any line of 
>> >>>     of cops - are selected from a certain group of humans, and this
>> >>>     group MUST have the physical and mental aptitude acceptable to 
>> >>the
>> >>>     ones doing the selecting.  Police forces of any and all 
>> >>political
>> >>>     sub-divisions, are hereditary entities; that is, the mind-set of
>> >>>     these groups was established many, many years ago, to the 
>> >>detriment
>> >>>     of those wanting to bring human reasoning into these forces.  
>> >>This
>> >>>     is clearly established by the fact that very few cops ever 
>> >>volun-
>> >>>     tarily distant themselves from the inadequate policies of the 
>> >>sys-
>> >>>     tem, however evil it may be.  Those who retire, or are 
>> >>eliminated
>> >>>     from the system, never shed their basic instincts, as can be 
>> >>seen
>> >>>     by the actions of Jack McLamb in the Shirley Allen affair. These 
>> >>
>> >>>     instincts are so strong in these cops that they are basically 
>> >>con-
>> >>>     fined, socially, to their own groups, as others will not accept 
>> >>>     them.  This, in turn, places these people in a very high suicide
>> >>>     category.  
>> >>>By accepting these rejects as leaders by the patriot movement, we are
>> >>>     damaging any favorable relationship we may have with the rest of
>> >>>     the nation, and this makes recruitment much more difficult.  I 
>> >>>     would suggest, therefore, that we decline any leadership role 
>> >>from
>> >>>     this source.  They have enough problems as it is.  Let them stew
>> >>>     in their own sauce.  
>> >>>
>> >>>					Ray Earnest
>> >>>
>> >>>-> Send "subscribe   snetnews " to majordomo@world.std.com
>> >>>->  Posted by: Ray Earnest <cen11156@mail.ld.centuryinter.net>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>>
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>01
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>02
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>> As agents of the Most High, we came here to establish justice.  We shall
>10
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>
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>->  Posted by: "Henry Ayre" <henri@Alaska.NET>
>
>
>

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Paul Andrew Mitchell, Sui Juris      : Counselor at Law, federal witness 01
B.A.: Political Science, UCLA;   M.S.: Public Administration, U.C.Irvine 02
tel:     (520) 320-1514: machine; fax: (520) 320-1256: 24-hour/day-night 03
email:   [address in tool bar]       : using Eudora Pro 3.0.3 on 586 CPU 04
website: http://supremelaw.com       : visit the Supreme Law Library now 05
ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech,  at its best 06
             Tucson, Arizona state   : state zone,  not the federal zone 07
             Postal Zone 85719/tdc   : USPS delays first class  w/o this 08
_____________________________________: Law is authority in written words 09
As agents of the Most High, we came here to establish justice.  We shall 10
not leave, until our mission is accomplished and justice reigns eternal. 11
======================================================================== 12
[This text formatted on-screen in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.] 13

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