Time: Mon Dec 01 06:53:27 1997
To: Jay Robbins <han-wi@ri.ultranet.com>
From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
Subject: SLS: What's in a NUMBER? Is it a WAIVER?
Cc: 
Bcc: sls
References: <3.0.3.16.19971201063709.33b7a5c2@pop.primenet.com> <3.0.3.16.19971201080110.083710d6@pop.ri.ultranet.com>

It wasn't voluntary, if we were told it was required.

I think FRAUD is our best, and most affirmative, defense,
all around.

/s/ Paul Mitchell
http://supremelaw.com


At 08:44 AM 12/1/97, you wrote:
>True enough, however, WHAT MUST be challanged is the application of such a
>number and the fact that 'you' were lead to believe that it was REQUIRED.
>This constitutes fraud, and THAT is what must be challanged! You made the
>application (or your parents) and no one held a gun to your head to do it!
>This is a voluntary act! You have made the decision to apply for the number
>and that is by definition, a waiver! It is encumbent upon the individual to
>research wheter or not he/she is required to apply or not. It is not for
>the 'government' to tell you that you are not required to do so. Your
>thoughts? 
>
>
>At 06:37 AM 12/1/97 -0800, you wrote:
>>The immunity from direct taxes without apportionment
>>is a fundamental Right, because it is guaranteed by
>>the U.S. Constitution.  Waivers of fundamental Rights
>>must be knowingly intelligent acts, done with 
>>sufficient awareness of the relevant circumstances
>>and likely consequences.  And, waivers of fundamental
>>Rights cannot be presumed, ever.  Against this high standard
>>for waiving any fundamental Right, the acquisition of
>>a Social Security Number ("SSN") simply does not meet
>>the requisite conditions.  The same is true of the
>>SS-5 Application for Social Security Number.  Thus,
>>obtaining a SSN as a minor, without full disclosure,
>>worked a fraud upon all of us;  it hardly constituted
>>a competent waiver, as that term is well understood
>>in the legal community.  For authority, see Brady v. U.S.
>>
>>/s/ Paul Mitchell
>>http://supremelaw.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 08:01 AM 12/1/97, you wrote:
>>>
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>>>The Constitution protects you from the levy of a 'direct' unapportioned
>>>tax, unless you have surrendered that right  and protection. Do you have a
>>>valid Social Security Number? If you answered yes, than you voluntarily
>>>surrendered your constitutional protection from unapportioned direct taxes. 
>>>	The Great Depression, which lasted some 6 to 8 years, allowed the
>>>government of the united States to come to the peoples rescue with various
>>>'make work' programs and projects, and also introduced the Social Security
>>>Administration in 1935.
>>>	As most are aware, Social Security is nothing more than an elaborate
>>>'Ponzi' scheme, and with over 40 million now collecting it's benefits, it
>>>is sure to collapse under such a burden. Contrary to all the popular
>>>rhetoric, it WILL FAIL. This type of scheme has resulted in many, who have
>>>utilized it in the private sector, being  jailed for offering such plans.
>>>The government hates competition!
>>>	In the so called 'de-tax' and 'un-tax' movements, there is a propensity,
>>>by these 'groups', to point to the Pollock, Brushaber, and Stanton
>>>decisions [among others] to justify their claims that the so called income
>>>tax was never imposed upon the 'sovereign' citizen(s) of the 50 States. As
>>>true as this may be, the fact is that if you have a valid Social Security
>>>Number, these court decisions DO NOT apply to you! Why? Because you are a
>>>"taxpayer" as legally defined. (* see IRC Section 7701 (a)(14)) You have
>>>entered into an agreement with the government of the United States; you are
>>>required to allow money to be withheld from your pay; you are required to
>>>make contributions to Social Security and YOU ARE under the legal
>>>jurisdiction of the Federal Tax Collector--The IRS; as such, you are
>>>'presumed' responsible to pay the income tax even though it has not been
>>>legally imposed upon you, you are REQUIRED to sign a W-4 form; you are
>>>legally REQUIRED to allow your employer to withhold income taxes from your
>>>pay check; you are PRESUMED legally responsible to file an income tax
>>>return to report your earnings to your benefactor (The Federal Government);
>>>and you are presumed responsible to provide your financial information to
>>>the IRS when they ask for it!
>>>	In exchange for all this, you can expect to receive (if you qualify)
>>>welfare, food stamps, un-employment (another legal term) compensation,
>>>federal mortgages, farm subsidies, low cost federal disaster loans, small
>>>business loans, Medicare, Medicaid and social security....and the list goes
>>>on.
>>>
>>>That's the agreement!
>>>
>>>	If anyone informs you that you are NOT required to pay the tax or file the
>>>return, because there is no specific law that requires you to, and you
>>>still have a valid Social Security Number, they are WRONG! This kind of
>>>MIS-information can, and has, gotten a lot of people into deep sh** . But
>>>then it cost NOTHING for these people to disseminate false information and
>>>sell it to unsuspecting 'prey'.
>>>	If you have a social security number, you are subject to the laws found in
>>>Subtitle C of the Internal Revenue Code. No one forced you to “apply” for
>>>the number! You, or perhaps your parents applied for this number, and as
>>>result of this ‘voluntary act’ you are a taxpayer as legally defined! You
>>>are a ‘voluntary’ participant under the legal jurisdiction of the IRS and
>>>are presumed responsible to pay the income tax to support the government
>>>that YOU have made the agreement with, and are expecting the benefit from!
>>>It no longer matters whether or not the tax is an unapportioned direct tax
>>>or that they are only imposed upon the residents of the federal
>>>territories....you have to pay them!
>>>	On the other hand, if one does not have a social security number, you are
>>>NOT subject to those laws and  as such, NOT under the jurisdiction of the
>>>IRS, unless you are in the business of manufacturing Alcohol, Tabacco, or
>>>Firearms. You are not only beyond the scope of IRS jurisdiction but you are
>>>also beyond the scope of ALL internal revenue laws! You are a free citizen
>>>- see Delima v. Bidwell, 182 U.S. 176 - 179   and   Gerth v. United States,
>>>132 F. Supp. 894 (1955) to verify this.
>>>	
>>>
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>                                  Jay Robbins
>                               4 Your Information
>                                   PO Box 672
>                                Woonsocket, RI 02895
>                           Email: han-wi@ri.ultranet.com 
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