Time: Tue Dec 16 05:15:36 1997 To: From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: SLS: Butte County Citizens Denied Right to see their own Grand Jury (fwd) Cc: Bcc: sls, friends References: <snip> > >>Dear PangK, >> >>We have used lawyers, and are familiar with them. What we have seen is that >>factually, they are flaccid, devious, non-representative arm of the >>organized crime syndicate in which we are going after. >> >>Anyone asking a lawyer to join them in any cause is like asking a local Wise >>Guy to help you fight his own organized crime mafia. >> >>There can be NO disputing of these facts. In fact, not just the henious >>facts and figures which show massive losses to average citizens entering >>within the present court systems of this nation; not only the clear facts >>and figures that show that money (See O.J. Simpson, Michael Jackson, and a >>host of other 'rich' criminal causes that turned out quite differently from >>the reality that would have transpired if they were poor, these people would >>have been slammed into jail a long time ago) money is the only 'real' law >>within our court system; not only the clear explosion of Pro Se litigants >>whom after decades of being plummelled by this corrupt Organized Crime >>Syndicate/System that the ABA runs through and by collusion of its lawyers; >>not only the fact, hidden to most litigants whom hire lawyers that his >>'defender' in fact is an officer of the court and has homage and fealty to >>that court; not only by the fact, that if lawyers worked, especially in >>Fathers Rights, amounst a host of other causes--that most of these >>government applied tyrannies NEVER would have occurred in the first place!; >>not only by the clear facts and figures that Social "Judicial Activist" / >>Imperial "Judges" are upholding clearly Unconstitutional laws and action, >>and defiantly are protecting themselves and other government tyrants through >>illegal "Immunity" cliams; not only by the fact that lawyers pervert the law >>and do not voraciously attack the system, not only to defeat it, but totally >>collapse and eradicate it which sometimes is needed, and during modern >>times--is ABSOLUTELY NEEDED...The facts are--getting a Lawyer is the worst >>thing any citizen can factually do to his case. >> >>And you want us to get a lawyer?!? For what reason? >> >>It is most propable we are going to be over ruled, or proceedurally put >>aside anyways--why would we add MORE certainty to that fact by obtaining a >>Lawyer whom will not voraciously eradicate these perverted systems? That >>will enjoin with the court to overcharge us, to take our monies, to >>malfeasantly drag the case along until that lawyer wears out the person he >>represents so that the case in fact NEVER ENTERS ANY COURT? >> >>Clearly, with the massive losses being suffered by the American public by >>this applied Government terrorism, we are clearly coming to a time where the >>realization clearly shows, that "IF" it is a most probable certainty that we >>are going to lose due to this illegal Organized Crime Syndicate-- >> >>Why do we need lawyers? >> >>Why in fact do we even need Judges?!? >> >>The system is so corrupt--why do we need these entities if we are only to >>lose anyways? >> >>I say we face facts, and start cutting these maggot's out from their own >>sustinance. Stop hiring lawyers, Stop giving Judges Salaries--starve this >>beast by any means--[for clearly logically proven reasons]; and these >>injustice will start to collapse, due to inadequate funds. >> >>No deference to you...but "IF" there were any true lawyers within this >>nation--most of these perversions would have never occurred in the first >>place. The FACT that they have, clearly shows that these 'professional' >>people have clearly not done their job, they have no understanding of law; >>and/or they are malfeasant beyond reason. These are the polite reasons as >>to why we will not obtain a 'vaunted' lawyer. >> >>If you don't like it, then I can start spouting facts and figures that start >>with 97.3% of wins being upheld by DA's across this nation for any 'crime.' >>(This is a 1990 figure, clearly closer to 100% by now). Most >>Communist/Totalitarian regimes can only claim 99% success rate. >> >>AND--I would conjecture to say, that those 2.7% of citizen wins out of the >>97.3% citizen losses--I would make the supposition a good portion of those >>are due to Pro Se (non-lawyer) litigants and not the other way around. >> >>I mean really. Lets turn this paradigm around and place the same facts and >>figures on 'Lifeguards" per se. Out of 100% going swimming, 97.3% drown? >>Would you 'think' it would take 40 years to figure out whether we need >>"Lifeguards" or not? >> >>So...all we are doing here is what any clear thinking citizen would do. >>They'd assure themselves the best percentage of winning, and clearly in >>these contemporary times, that can be best done WITHOUT a Lawyer. >> >>Clearly, lawyers are being 'cut out of the loop'. We keep this up, we might >>be able to get this country back. >> >>Wish us luck. >> >>We are getting 'zero' lawyers. You are out of the loop. We don't want your >>help anymore. Trust me, you've 'helped' enough already. >> >>Sincerely, >>RLCII >>SPG >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>At 08:41 PM 12/15/97 EST, you wrote: >>>In a message dated 97-12-15 15:02:16 EST, you write: >>> >>><< First, the idea that we have to use a lawyer to access what is lawfully >>>ours >>> by birthright and ancient custom (See ex-rel Miller which gives but a small >>> history of the Grand Jury); is reprehensible. We are trying to collapse >the >>> corrupt monopoly of the ABA. We have a right WITHOUT SEEKING A LAWYER to >>> see our own grand jury. We will force this issue until they submit. >>> >> >>> >>>Well IF you are hell bent to bloody yourself, I can't talk you out of it. >But >>>a lawyer >>>who knows the ropes can do a better job for you. > <snip>
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