Time: Tue Nov 26 22:50:50 1996
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:24:23 -0800
To: libertylaw@www.ultimate.org
From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
Subject: Re: LLAW: U.S. v. Troescher

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>>>Here is the Case referenced in the Troescher Decision...I love how these
>>>idiots claim a Right secured by the 5th Amendment is a Privilege!!!!!!!  They
>>>are going to declare and rename the Bill of Rights to the Bill of
>>>Privileges!!!  What is wrong with this picture??!!
>>>
>>>John Edward
>>
>>John Edward,
>>
>>I must disagree with you only
>>to this extent:  the Privileges
>>and Immunities Clause is not to
>>be confused with privileges which
>>are granted by statute and not
>>otherwise available.  I believe
>>the Fifth Amendment "Privilege"
>>falls under the Privileges and
>>Immunities Clause (4:2:1).
>
>
>OBJECTION!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Does it say "Bill of Rights" or "Bill of Privileges"?
>
>A Right I have forever!  It is Unalienable!
>A Privilege may be taken away!

No, I am afraid you are confusing
Privileges with privileges.
The Privileges mentioned at 4:2:1
are unalienable Rights, just like
those mentioned in the Bill of 
Rights.  Similarly, the Immunities
mentioned at 4:2:1 are likewise
unalienable Rights, just like
those mentioned in the Bill of 
Rights.  Remember, the organic
Constitution came first, followed
by the Bill of Rights.  The Tenth
Amendment clearly embraces those
Rights (read "Privileges and 
Immunities") which are mentioned
at 4:2:1.  I personally believe 
that this Clause is one of the 
least understood in the entire
U.S. Constitution.  

/s/ Paul Mitchell


>
>Is the fifth amendment subject to be taken AWAY from ME?
>And by WHOM may I ask is in control of the PRIVILEGE???????????
>Privileges are what the the 14th amendment folks, folks "born in the United
>States" and folks naturalized "into the United States" via a "birth
>Certificate" are "subject" to.
>
>I disagree!!!!!!
>
>
>the best
>
>Ralph Kermit, Winterrowd
>citizen of the United States nunc pro tunc
>Citizen of the State of Kansas (equal footing with the original States)
>domiciled in the Territory of Alaska
>Born of natural born parents of the Posterity
>Sovereign State in Fact
>
>If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better
>than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not
>your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May
>your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget ye were our
>countrymen.
>                Samuel Adams
>
>Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains
>and slavery?  Forbid it, Almighty God!  I know not what course others may
>take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death.
>        Patrick Henry:  Speech in the Virginia Convention, March 23,1775
>
>My Homepage is:  http://www.alaska.net/~winter/jefferson.html
>
>
>

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