Time: Wed Nov 27 09:33:16 1996
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 08:09:22 -0800
To: libertylaw@www.ultimate.org
From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
Subject: LLAW: U.S. v. Troescher

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Are you saying that the immunity against
self-incrimination is not an immunity?

/s/ Paul Mitchell


>> ><snip>
>> >>Here is the Case referenced in the Troescher Decision...I love how these
>> >>idiots claim a Right secured by the 5th Amendment is a Privilege!!!!!!!
They
>> >>are going to declare and rename the Bill of Rights to the Bill of
>> >>Privileges!!!  What is wrong with this picture??!!
>> >>
>> >>John Edward
>> >
>> >John Edward,
>> >
>> >I must disagree with you only
>> >to this extent:  the Privileges
>> >and Immunities Clause is not to
>> >be confused with privileges which
>> >are granted by statute and not
>> >otherwise available.  I believe
>> >the Fifth Amendment "Privilege"
>> >falls under the Privileges and
>> >Immunities Clause (4:2:1).
>> 
>
>Incorrect. 5th Amendment has nothing to do with 4:2:1. --Andrew Lehr
>> 
>> OBJECTION!!!!!!!!!!!
>> 
>> Does it say "Bill of Rights" or "Bill of Privileges"?
>> 
>> A Right I have forever!  It is Unalienable!
>> A Privilege may be taken away!
>
>Again, you are confusing the definition of the term privilege. 5th A. 
>enshrined the protection against self-incrimination vis-a-vis the federal 
>government. It is not a statutorily-created privilege and should not be 
>confused with such.
>
>--Andrew Lehr
>
> > 
>> Is the fifth amendment subject to be taken AWAY from ME?
>> And by WHOM may I ask is in control of the PRIVILEGE???????????
>> Privileges are what the the 14th amendment folks, folks "born in the United
>> States" and folks naturalized "into the United States" via a "birth
>> Certificate" are "subject" to.
>> 
>> I disagree!!!!!!
>> 
>> 
>> the best
>> 
>> Ralph Kermit, Winterrowd
>> citizen of the United States nunc pro tunc
>> Citizen of the State of Kansas (equal footing with the original States)
>> domiciled in the Territory of Alaska
>> Born of natural born parents of the Posterity
>> Sovereign State in Fact
>> 
>> If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better
>> than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not
>> your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May
>> your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget ye were our
>> countrymen.
>>                 Samuel Adams
>> 
>> Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains
>> and slavery?  Forbid it, Almighty God!  I know not what course others may
>> take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death.
>>         Patrick Henry:  Speech in the Virginia Convention, March 23,1775
>> 
>> My Homepage is:  http://www.alaska.net/~winter/jefferson.html
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
>

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