Time: Tue Mar 04 16:25:40 1997 by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA03491; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:37:16 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 16:21:57 -0800 To: conchr-l@xc.org From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: SLS: 31 CFR 51.2 and 52.2 References: <3.0.1.16.19970301064824.378fe0e2@mailhost.primenet.com> At 04:04 PM 3/2/97 EST, you wrote: >OK Paul, I see that the two citations have different words quoted in your >examples. I'll bite: What's the significance (in layman's terms)? The de jure "state" courts are convened under the "state" constitutions. The de facto "State" courts are convened under the municipal jurisdiction of the United States (federal government), under the pretense that the states have become territories of the United States (federal government). This is a massive fraud, because it causes "foreign law" to invade the Union states, in violation of the Guarantee Clause. It dates from the secret bankruptcy in 1933, when FDR took office. Now, here's the rub: the U.S. Constitution (with Bill of Rights, of course), does not apply inside federal territories. For some background on this, read "The Lawless Rehnquist" in the Supreme Law Library at URL: http://www.supremelaw.com One of the key pivots is The Insular Cases, which are cited in "The Lawless Rehnquist." I hope this helps. /s/ Paul Mitchell What >difference would a capital "s" make in referring to a state? The Superior >Court caption examples really went over my head. Don't worry, those subtle differences are meant to be missed. SUPERIOR COURT OF THE STATE OF ARIZONA (read "Superior Court of the State of Arizona") is the de facto forum, operating as a territory of the United States (federal government). SUPERIOR COURT OF ARIZONA is the de jure forum, operating as a sovereign Republic under the Guarantee Clause. This latter form may also appear as: SUPERIOR COURT OF ARIZONA STATE (read "Superior Court of Arizona state") You talk of two >governments operating over the same geographic territory -- what's that >about? For the very best explanation, see Howard Freeman's classic essay "The Two United States and the Law" in the Supreme Law Library at URL: http://www.supremelaw.com The municipal jurisdiction of Congress is a legislative democracy which is not ruled by the Constitution; it is governed by majority rule (the majority of House and Senate). Think of Congress as "city hall" for the federal zone! Congress can legislate dog leash laws for D.C., if it wants to do so. Since federal citizens are members of a political community who owe their allegiance to the federal government, Congress can legislative for them (the "dog leash"), no matter where they are in the Universe, and do so without regard to the fundamental Guarantees which are enumerated in the U.S. Constitution. The Guarantees of the Constitution extend to the federal zone ONLY as Congress makes those guarantees applicable there, by statutes! /s/ Paul Mitchell Also you mentioned a Presidential Order in your previous post >referring to these examples -- what order are you referring to, when was >it issued, and what connection does it have to the cited sections and the >rest of this? I don't have the E.O. number yet, but Richard McDonald tells me that an E.O. was issued to remove 31 CFR 51.2 and 52.2 from all federal depository libraries, most probably because those regulations are very important material proof of what I am telling you here. /s/ Paul Mitchell >YBIC, >Bob >+++ >On Sat, 01 Mar 1997 06:48:24 -0800 Paul Andrew Mitchell >[address in tool bar] writes: >>[This text is formatted in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing. ] >> >>Here is a parallel table of definitions, which provides >>stunning proof for both de jure and de facto governments >>operating over the same geographic territories in America: >> >> >> 31 CFR 51.2: 31 CFR 52.2: >> >>(i) Governor means the Governor (f) Governor means the Governor >> of any of the 50 State of any of the 50 states .... >> governments .... >> >>(o) Secretary means the Secretary (n) Secretary means the Secretary >> of the Treasury. of the U.S. Department of the >> Treasury. >> >>(q) State government means the (o) State government means the >> government of any of the government of any of the >> 50 State governments or the 50 states. >> District of Columbia. >> >> |---- de facto government ----| |---- de jure government ----| >> >> >>There you have it! This is our authority to >>spell "state" with a small "s", as in >>"state Citizen" or "Citizen of Arizona state." >> >>The capital "S" "States" are the corporate, >>de facto versions, which are operating >>outside the Law (i.e. ultra vires, to be >>precise). >> >>So, there must be an important difference >>between a court caption which reads: >> >> IN THE SUPERIOR COURT OF THE STATE OF ARIZONA >> IN AND FOR THE COUNTY OF PIMA >> >>on the one hand, and >> >> IN THE SUPERIOR COURT OF ARIZONA STATE >> IN AND FOR PIMA COUNTY >> >>on the other hand. See Arizona Rules of Court, >>Rules of Criminal Procedure, Form XXIII. >> >>It is interesting that Form II(b) has a caption >>which reads: >> >> SUPERIOR COURT OF ARIZONA >> ________ COUNTY >> >>This form closely parallels the latter of the >>two forms described above (PIMA COUNTY, not >>COUNTY OF PIMA). >> >>Notice, in particular, that there is a >>"Department of the Treasury" and a >>"U.S. Department of the Treasury" in >>31 CFR 51.2 and 52.2 >> >>We make an educated guess that the one >>appearing on all IRS correspondence is >>the former, not the latter! >> >>Many thanks to Richard McDonald for making >>this discovery many months ago. >> >>/s/ Paul Mitchell >------------------------------------------------------ >You can unsubscribe from this conference at any time. >Just send the command: unsubscribe conchr-l to <HUB@XC.ORG> > > ======================================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. : Counselor at Law, federal witness email: [address in tool bar] : Eudora Pro 3.0.1 on Intel 586 CPU web site: http://www.supremelaw.com : library & law school registration ship to: c/o 2509 N. 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