Time: Sat Mar 22 11:41:29 1997 by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12979; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:33:13 -0700 (MST) by usr03.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA22468; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:32:34 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:39:22 -0800 To: fwolist@sportsmen.net From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: SLS: debtors' signatures Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This line of thinking, of course, motivated the California Attorney General last year to consider an edict, forbidding the recordation of any commercial lien which was not also signed by the debtor. Then, someone pointed out to him that, in one bold stroke of the pen, the California Attorney General would nullify every last single Notice of Federal Tax Lien which has ever been filed in any California county, because not one of them is signed by the debtor. Not one! Their only saving grace was the prohibition against Ex Post Facto laws (which applies to executive orders as well); said prohibition only applies to laws which are constitutional, however. The IRC is unconstitutional because it is void for vagueness, and doubt should be resolved in favor of those upon whom the tax is sought to be laid. So, those Notices of Federal Tax Lien are null and void for lots of other reasons, not just the absence of the debtor's signature. /s/ Paul Mitchell http://www.supremelaw.com At 08:36 AM 3/22/97 -0700, you wrote: >================[ Distributed Message ]================ > ListServer: fwolist (Free World Order) > Type: Not Moderated > Distributed on: 22-MAR-97, 08:36:10 >Original Written by: IN:behold@teleport.com. >======================================================= > > > >At 01:23 AM 3/22/97 -0700, you wrote: >>================[ Distributed Message ]================ >> ListServer: fwolist (Free World Order) >> Type: Not Moderated >> Distributed on: 22-MAR-97, 01:21:34 >>Original Written by: IN:psullivn@intersurf.com. >>======================================================= >> >> >> >> >>FW>The Universal Commercial Code (U.C.C.). Who authored it? It is now >> >on-line on some web-site for viewing? Does it have a so-called "US >> >Code Number" attached to it? What is the history that led to the >> >scribbling of it? "Was doing business better before it was created?" >> >Is it "part of (so-called) international law?" >> >>I got this from someone at Patriotz@aol.com (comments are his): >> >>UCC (Uniform Commercial Code) on the Internet - this is NOT the >>Anderson version, so will NOT have many of the cites Patriots >>use... Anderson's IS judicially recognized, and should be the ONLY >>version used for legal actions: >> >>http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/ucc.table.html >>GOPHER://leginfo.leg.wa.gov:70/11/pub/rew/title_62a** >> >>--- >> þ SLMR 2.1a þ Every action has an equal and opposite government program > >Wangrud: >When you check out this cite see if they tell you this: > >issue, the UCC. > > As I have reviewed the stand taken by the UCC pleaders, they > claim by filing a UCC-1 statement they have indebted the person > filed against to themselves. Most of these UCC-1 statements are > filed against government officials. I have always disagreed that > any one can claim you owe a debt to someone without a signed > contract or court order in their favor, or without you signing > your name to involve yourself in a statutory scheme such as the > Social Security Act, which is not a contract condition, but does > require your signature. But these UCC-1 people claim they can > obligate government officials by filing this document without a > signature of the official admitting the debt or obligation. Well > that would be nice if it were true, but it isn't. > > COURT: "BECAUSE THE PURPORTED FINANCING STATEMENTS FAIL TO > COMPLY WITH THE REQUISITES OF LAW, THEY ARE VOID AND OF NO CONSE- > QUENCE...." > > COURT: "...THE LAW IS WELL SETTLED THAT A FINANCING STATEMENT IS > SUFFICIENT IF IT:...(4) IS SIGNED BY THE DEBTOR...." > > COURT: "THE UCC-1 FINANCING STATEMENTS IN THIS CASE DO NOT EVEN > PURPORT TO CONTAIN THE SIGNATURES OF THE ALLEGED DEBTORS; IN- > STEAD, THE SIGNATURE BOX ON THE UCC-1 STATEMENTS CONTAIN A TYPED > REFERENCE TO UCC SEC. 3-415 AND IS SIGNED BY EITHER GARTH OR > GREENSTREET. THE ADDITION OF DOCUMENTS EVINCING THE SIGNATURE OF > THE ALLEGED DEBTORS AMOUNTS TO A CRUDE COMPLIANCE ATTEMPT AT BEST > AND A FORGERY AT WORST." Emphasis mine. > UNITED STATES v. Gale E. Greenstreet, [U.S.D.C. N.D.Tex. 1996] > 912 F. Supp. 224, 227. > > The UCC pleaders have had the heart cut out of their scheme. > Without the power of UCC sec. 3-415 to claim the government > official owes the debt, their whole scheme falls apart. Like it > or not, the patriots will have to abandon the U.C.C., and I > believe it was a Rabbit Hole Issue to begin with. > > >> >> >> >> >>======================================================================== >>To subscribe: send a message to the fwolist@sportsmen.net >>with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject/topic field. Use UNSUBSCRIBE to >>remove yourself from the list. Questions/comments/problems? >> email: Not Moderated@sportsmen.net or listmgmt@sportsmen.net >>For info about this system and its lists email: info@sportsmen.net >> >>======================================================================== >>via: Sportsman's Paradise~~Online 602-922-1639 - www.sportsmen.net >> >> >> > Robert W. Wangrud > BEHOLD! 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