Time: Tue Mar 25 19:18:59 1997 by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28921; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 15:35:14 -0700 (MST) id RAA15130; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 17:01:05 -0500 (EST) id RAA15121; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 17:01:04 -0500 (EST) id AA06647; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 17:01:03 -0500 by usr05.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA07008 for <snetnews@world.std.com>; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 15:01:00 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:20:23 -0800 To: snetnews@world.std.com From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: SNET: problem with commun -> SearchNet's SNETNEWS Mailing List They would create their "antithesis" because that IS dialectical materialism: you demand to have enough power to define the problem, and then to implement the solution. Don't forget, they also demand to have enough power to foment the problem in the first place. Now, that pretty much covers the gamut. /s/ Paul Mitchell At 02:13 PM 3/20/97 EST5EDT, you wrote: > >-> SearchNet's SNETNEWS Mailing List > > > TID: PX v1.3 PX95-0098M > MSGID: 1:270/616 0794a449 >V>> The problem I've always had with the enthusiast of communism and >V>> socialism is that your movements have historically, and still are >V>> today, pawns of the international banking cartel comprising the >V>> so-called Federal Reserve System. (Which is a private cartel of the >V>> largest banking families of both the U.S. and Europe.) > >Sorry, but this just doesn't add up to me!!! Why would the "elites" >fund/create their antithesis? It makes NO sense! IMO, from the great >depression till the imminent fall of communism was foretellable >sometime in the 70's, the unprecedentedly affluent American standard of >living at that time and improvements in the relative position of >American Labor as a class were due in large part to the elites fear of >losing everything in a revolution! They were FORCED to share more than >they otherwise would have without the ideological threat posed by >Communism! So you're telling me the elites put themselves in this >position in order to impose a greater tyranny themselves later? I'm >sceptical, to put it diplomatically.<G> > >The American economic decline IMO is at least in part due to the lack >of a communist threat to the elites. By various indirect measures they >are now taking back all the economic power that was ceded to the middle >class in the middle of the century. We're heading back to a situation >resembling the last centuries economy, only things will be worse, since >there's now no large class of family farmers anymore that own their own >land as was the case in America anyway in the last century. > >The migration of American Capital (actually this a general thing >happening to all the "western" economies) overseas so the elites can >squeeze a greater return, and other aspects of economic treason >against the western common man involved in the "globalization" of the >economy("free trade") would NOT have happened if we were still in a >"cold war"! Note that I'm NOT an advocate of Communism/Socialism. >Just recognizing how one unjust system was held in check via fear of >another competing, even less just ideology. Capitalism where economic >muscle isn't WIDELY and relatively evenly distributed leads to abuses >by the FEW who hold all the clout. For example, the rapid development >and improvement of the PC was primarily SMALL business phenomena with >MANY players. If there had been only a "Big Three" in PC's, we would >NOT have seen the astronomical pace of advances observed. > >The problem, as Ralph Nader puts it, and I agree with him >HERE, occurs when there's TOO MUCH money in TOO FEW hands, to the >point of Monopoly concentrations of economic power. Leads to obvious >exploitation, and a looting and plunder mentality by the FEW. >Interestingly enough, the Bible has a prescription for preventing such >accumulations of power via 7-year cyclic releases of debt, and 50 year >cycles of land redistribution that solve this inherent flaw with >totally unrestrained Laissez-faire economics. I don't want to get into >religion with this, but IMO we should go with something similar. This >will actually be GOOD for business, understood as SMALL business! >Mike > >* Origin: Seventh Star - York, PA (717)-225-7256 (1:270/616) >-> SearchNet HeadQuarters - XBN MailGate >-> http://world.std.com/~snet/ > >-> Send "subscribe snetnews " to majordomo@world.std.com >-> Posted by: Mike Duttera <mike.duttera%f616.n270.z1@xbn.shore.net> > > ======================================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. : Counselor at Law, federal witness email: [address in tool bar] : Eudora Pro 3.0.1 on Intel 586 CPU web site: http://www.supremelaw.com : library & law school registration ship to: c/o 2509 N. 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