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Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 10:30:54 -0700
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From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
Subject: SLS: The FBI is Reading Your Email (fwd)
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>
>This message is being forwarded for your information. See my comments
>afterward. -- Jon
>
>--- On Thu, 10 Apr 1997 12:03:30 -0400 (EDT) minuteer@mistic.net wrote:
>
>THE FBI IS READING YOUR EMAIL!!!
>by Don Rudolph (minuteer@mistic.net)
>
>To All Patriots and Militia Personel:
>
>Sitrep: FBI VISIT
>Date: April 8, 1997
>Time: 09:30 hrs
>Location: My home
>
>At or around 09:30 hrs Pacific time, I answered a door bell at my
>home. It seems that I had two FBI AGENTS at the door. They asked if
>they could come in and ask a few questions. I replied "OK", and let
>them in.
>
>These two agents came in and sat down at the table. They asked a
>few generic questions, and then started asking about the unit. Size,
>what we do, who we know and things of this nature. My replies
>were short, and to the point. As far as the size of the unit, I told them
>that I never give out numbers of persons involved, and would not do
>such either. The agents tried to pry into the size of the unit a few more
>times with no luck. They were doing a little fishing, and info seeking.
>I told them what I thought they needed to know, and that was that.
>
>I finally asked why they had come to my home. They said that they
>had "seen and read some on my email".
>
> THIS IS ONE REASON I AM POSTING THIS.
> THIS IS CONFIRMATION OF THE FEDS READING EMAIL !!!!
>
>They even gave me a quote from the email, which stated something to
>the effect, that if we call ourselves frogs, then it is time to jump. I told
>them that what I meant by that was, that if we call ourselves militia,
>then we need to act like militia.
>
>The second reason I am posting this is due to the fact that I finally got
>from the Agents that I was being interviewed because someone had
>reported that I was going to blow up a building. I asked where this was
>supposed to take place, and they said Albuquerque, New Mexico. I told
>them that this was news to me. First I had heard about it, and that was
>the truth. I have never planned on blowing anything up, and not a
>building for sure. Besides, as a member of the militia, and commander
>of this unit, we try our best to stay within the confines of the law.
>
>I asked if they could tell me who this person was who reported me.
>They told me the persons name. KATRINA REYNOLDS, FROM IDAHO.
>I have never heard nor met this person. And I told the FBI that.
>
>This is the second reason I am posting this. If you have ever heard
>of this person, or know this person, or have met this person, and know
>where she may be, please let me know. I would like to know if this
>person is real, and why she would do such a thing.
>
>Folks, one thing they did say. April 19th is coming up, and they are
>worried about the date. With everything that has happened on this
>date, they are concerned.
>
>I do not know why the feds really did this. I only have what they told
>me. I can say one thing about these federal agents. In no way were
>these men ever unprofessional. They were friendly, kind, well spoken,
>not threatening in any way, and never asked to search me, my family
>or my home.
>
>Now, if any of you have met this Katrina Reynolds, or know of her, I
>would be grateful if you could send me any information that you may
>have.
>
>I think that things are tightening up, and they are worried. Watch your
>email, the feds ARE watching.
>
>Donald K. Rudolph, Commander
>San Joaquin County Militia
>---------------End of Original Message-----------------
>
>There are several points that need to be made concerning such encounters
>with FBI and other government agents:
>
>(1) Just because they are polite does not mean they are good guys. Their
>priority is job security and promotion. Truth, honor, and loyalty to the
>Constitution are dimly understood concepts, at best.
>
>(2) The above encounter describes a typical "head game" they like to
>play. One of the objectives is to "send you a message" that you should
>discontinue your political activities, or they may do other things like
>framing you for a crime.
>
>(3) They play such head games with a lot more people than they ever get
>around to framing for a crime. The more people stand up to them and
>refuse to be intimidated, the less likely they are to follow through.
>
>(4) They do not disclose the real name of a real informer. That would be
>a violation of standard confidentiality rules. If they give you a name,
>it is either to discredit the person or to send you on a wild goose
>chase trying to find him or her. More head games.
>
>(5) They will try to trick you into revealing something that they can
>later tell others in the movement you said, creating the impression you
>are an informant and discrediting you with the movement.
>
>(6) Never talk to them on federal territory -- any parcel of land ceded
>to the exclusive jurisdiction of the U.S. Congress by a state legislature,
>such as many, but not all, federal buildings.
>
>(7) Refuse to speak to them except in the presence of witnesses, and if
>possible, tape the meeting, preferably videotape. This will cut short a
>lot of such meetings.
>
>(8) Advise them that if they are engaged in a conspiracy to deprive you
>of your civil rights, this is a felony under 18 USC 241, and that if so,
>they are subject to citizen's arrest, whereupon they have a right to
>remain silent, and that anything they say can be used against them.
>
>(9) Do not cooperate with them in the enforcement of any statute that is
>unconstitutional, which includes any statute against an offense committed
>on state territory that is not counterfeiting, treason, piracy or felony
>on the high seas, offenses against the laws of nations, or violations of
>civil rights by a government agent. Explain that you will only cooperate
>in an investigation that will lead to prosecution in a court of competent
>jurisdiction, which is probably a state court. Federal agents can do that.
>Indeed, that was the original purpose of the FBI to investigate crimes to
>be prosecuted in state courts.
>
>(10) Ask them pointed questions about their knowledge of constitutional
>principles. Your questions may lurk in their minds and grow to doubts
>that will cause them to become whistleblowers.
>
>(11) Ask them if they have any knowledge of illegal acts by federal agents.
>Their answers, if any, could be interesting, and it takes the initiative
>from them.
>
>(12) Read the book, FBI Secrets: An Agent's Expose, by M. Wesley
>Swearingen, a 25-year FBI veteran. The book is available from South End
>Press, 116 Saint Botolph St, Boston, MA 02115, for $13.00 + S&H. Ask the
>agents if they have read the book and what they think of it.
>
>--Jon
>
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