Time: Sun May 11 13:51:47 1997 by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA15827 for [address in tool bar]; Sun, 11 May 1997 12:58:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: liberty-and-justice-outgoing@majordomo.pobox.com Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 13:36:44 -0700 To: liberty-and-justice@pobox.com From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: L&J: SLS: The American Future ... and I frankly think it is time to overturn the doctrine established by Downes v. Bidwell, in which the Supreme Court held that the Constitution of the United States, as such, does not extend beyond the boundaries of the states which are united by and under it. As federal citizens (read "citizens of the United States"), the People have unwittingly opted into an association which subjects them to a government which is not bound by the Constitution, pursuant to the Downes Doctrine. The solution is to repeal the Downes Doctrine outright, by overturning Downes v. Bidwell, and to re-establish the principle that the Constitution created Congress, and Congress is bound by it, no matter where Congress may legislate, whether for the whole nation, or just for the federal zone. Happily, this challenge has already been put on the table, in a federal court in Arizona, but that judge opted instead to commit 112 felonies in that one case, including obstruction of justice. Details are all being made available to clients of the Grand Jury Track, a special class of the Supreme Law School. So, the battle rages onwards. /s/ Paul Mitchell http://www.supremelaw.com p.s. For seminal insight into Congress as the "State" government for the federal zone, see "The Two United States and the Law," in the Supreme Law Library at the URL above. At 11:08 AM 5/7/97 PST, you wrote: > <It is a matter of the PRINCIPLE first whoever states it. Since you do > not recognize the principle I take it you think you have a right to > keep other peoples/cultures in bondage, ie TAKE AWAY THEIR FREEDOM.> > > I don't care about other countries. I only care about *this* country. > I want the Constitution of the United States to once again be the > supreme law of the land. After we take care of ourselves, and my > son's future is secure, THEN I'll worry about Zimbabe or Bolivia or > Timbuktoo. > > How can I help others secure what I do not have? Why should I? Is > not my first duty to *my* self, *my* family, and *my* country? > > > > Cordially, > > > > Dan Terry > > > > > > > > > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >Unsub info - send e-mail to majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com, with >"unsubscribe liberty-and-justice" in the body (not the subject) >Liberty-and-Justice list-owner is Mike Goldman <whig@pobox.com> > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Unsub info - send e-mail to majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com, with "unsubscribe liberty-and-justice" in the body (not the subject) Liberty-and-Justice list-owner is Mike Goldman <whig@pobox.com>
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