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Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 09:48:58 -0700
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From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
Subject: SLS: Part 8, THE CASOLARO MURDER: Tip of the Octopus

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>
>Part 8, THE CASOLARO MURDER: Tip of the Octopus
>        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO:
>You've got to realize that in intelligence gathering you don't go
>to church and wait to talk to people after church whom you expect
>to cultivate as sources. Okay?  You look for the people who don't
>go to church, and you find out why and what they're doing.  And if
>they've got some fetish that they're in the closet with, you hire
>agents or operatives to get in the closet with them and severely
>compromise them. That's one technique. And it's something that is
>widely used.                                                 
>
>You're not dealing with the best of human nature in intelligence
>gathering, you know, just by the very nature of the job that has
>to be done. And to be effective in intelligence gathering, you
>have to be effective in the art of compromise, among many other
>arts. So when people get upset about things that come out from
>intelligence operations, especially successful ones, they really
>don't know what they're talking about. What they should be upset
>about is when authorized objectives are exceeded, and when a group
>of people who are conducting intelligence are allowed to take
>matters into their own hands, as what has led to the situation
>today. That's what people should get upset about -- not the fact
>that governments have to engage in this kind of behavior.
>
>IAN MASTERS:
>Well, we're specifically talking about the October Surprise.
>
>MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO:
>Now, here again, we're into a background shot, and you've got a
>classic compromise situation taking place with the incoming Reagan
>Administration. And Alvarez wrote a letter warning Reagan about
>this possibility. He wanted to make him AWARE.  He expressed his
>loyalty as an American -- especially as a Native American. And he
>expressed his hopes in what Reagan stood for. Reagan wrote him
>back a very short, but very nice letter. And, from the tone of the
>letter, it's OBVIOUS that Reagan got Fred's letter and was aware
>of the contents of it. And this is stuff that we have in our hands.
>
>Now, about the same time, Senator [James] Abourezk gave a keynote
>speech at one of the many social events that were going on down at
>the Cabazon Reservation. And he praised the Tribe's efforts in
>helping to secure the release of the [embassy] hostages. I mean, 
>there were hundreds of people there who heard and saw this. Okay?
>Now what is a United States senator doing praising this tribe of
>under thirty Indians for their efforts in the international arena,
>if there wasn't something going on? Okay? 
>
>Now, you've got to realize that what I say about my direct knowledge
>about the transfer of that money, other people are saying is pure
>fabrication, and that if I believe it, then I have to be delusional.
>That's what they're saying. When I was in Springfield, I was
>putting pressure on [former Nixon aide Michael Allen] May to come
>forward. The prison authorities recorded those phone conversations.
>And they objected. And it's in my report. Not about May,
>specifically, but they objected to the number of calls I was making
>and the kinds of calls I was making. After May was found dead  
>(the last time I talked to him was two days before he was found
>dead) I was told, [his autopsy revealed drugs in his body], .....
>Well, first of all, they asked me: "What is going on with May?
>Were you blackmailing him?"  And I said: "WHAT? I mean, I'm
>thinking about having the man join my defense team. Either that or
>take over as my lead attorney. Why would I be blackmailing somebody
>like that?"  And they got real cute.  I had to find out from
>somebody else that the man was dead!  And I said: "Well, I think
>he's going to be coming out here to see me. Either that, or he's
>going to be seeing me immediately when I get back to Seattle."
>And they just were cute in their remarks.
>
>IAN MASTERS:
>Well, Michael Riconosciuto, we've only got a couple of minutes
>left. I'm about to go live here in a few short minutes. So can you
>finally tie up the threads. I mean, you feel that you've been
>framed. You were warned by both Videnieks and Brian not to
>cooperate with the House Judiciary Committee on the Inslaw
>investigation.
>
>MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO:
>Not warned by Brian -- just by Videnieks.
>
>IAN MASTERS:
>And you feel that you've been set up on a drug charge, in effect,
>for not playing ball with them.
>
>MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO:
>Oh, absolutely. They got to a point where I supposedly operated 
>the largest [methamphetamine lab] ever uncovered in the United States. 
>The E.P.A. came in and they did extensive testing, and they found 
>no evidence of drug contamination in the water or soil samples.
>What they did find was an elevated level of barium; not a hazardous
>level, but above normal background levels. Water solutions of barium
>oxide were the largest quantity of chemicals that we used there in
>processing platinum group metals. And that's an industry standard
>to precipitate platinum group metals. So that's consistent with 
>our side of the story.
>
>The other point is that analysis of my hair shows that I was not
>exposed environmentally to drugs or drug precursors. These are
>very strong chemicals. So if you are even near where drugs are
>being manufactured, it will show up in your metabolism. And 
>[word drowned out by Masters's voice] that, on toxicology tests,
>they all came out negative. So here's another point that really
>makes troublesome the charges that the Government has against me.
>
>IAN MASTERS:
>But just to finally wrap up on Earl Brian -- what specific evidence
>do you have that he brokered the October Surprise deal with the
>forty million dollars that you cabled to Luxembourg?
>
>MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO:
>Well, I was with him when we had preliminary negotiations .....
>
>IAN MASTERS:
>In Iran?
>
>MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO:
>And we were discussing how that money could be transferred.
>But in those discussions, we never ever talked about that money
>being for the delay of [the release of] the hostages.
>
>You've got to realize that in operations that are compartmentalized,
>the people who are actually doing covert things, most of the time,
>do not know what they're really doing.  There's a cover story.
>And they're working very hard, thinking they're doing one thing,
>when in fact, their efforts are going for something else. And one
>of the signs of a successful operation is how LITTLE the actual
>participants can actually talk about, in terms of direct knowledge
>of what really went down!
>
>IAN MASTERS:
>Well now, is there any direct knowledge, then?
>
>MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO:
>Well, there was the direct knowledge that I knew who had the money.
>And I'm tracing out, for Congressional people, the trail. Now
>that's direct knowledge from my standpoint. I made contact with
>some of the Iranians. That's direct knowledge on my part. I've
>sent a major news team that is in Iran right now getting these
>people on camera.
>
>IAN MASTERS:
>That's NIGHTLINE, right?
>
>MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO:
>No. Somebody else. I don't want to say. They're in the country
>right now. It's very sensitive, and I don't want to .....
>
>IAN MASTERS:
>Okay.  Well let's talk again. I've got to go now because I've got
>to go on the air, and I've got to edit this tape before I go on
>the air. So I've got to really fly. Thanks very much for joining
>us, Michael Riconosciuto. We'll stay in touch.
>
>MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO:
>Alright.
>                    ~~ TO BE CONTINUED ~~
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