Time: Mon May 12 10:06:36 1997 by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA29101; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:17:45 -0700 (MST) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA03581; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:17:34 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 09:48:58 -0700 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: SLS: Part 8, THE CASOLARO MURDER: Tip of the Octopus <snip> > >Part 8, THE CASOLARO MURDER: Tip of the Octopus > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO: >You've got to realize that in intelligence gathering you don't go >to church and wait to talk to people after church whom you expect >to cultivate as sources. Okay? You look for the people who don't >go to church, and you find out why and what they're doing. And if >they've got some fetish that they're in the closet with, you hire >agents or operatives to get in the closet with them and severely >compromise them. That's one technique. And it's something that is >widely used. > >You're not dealing with the best of human nature in intelligence >gathering, you know, just by the very nature of the job that has >to be done. And to be effective in intelligence gathering, you >have to be effective in the art of compromise, among many other >arts. So when people get upset about things that come out from >intelligence operations, especially successful ones, they really >don't know what they're talking about. What they should be upset >about is when authorized objectives are exceeded, and when a group >of people who are conducting intelligence are allowed to take >matters into their own hands, as what has led to the situation >today. That's what people should get upset about -- not the fact >that governments have to engage in this kind of behavior. > >IAN MASTERS: >Well, we're specifically talking about the October Surprise. > >MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO: >Now, here again, we're into a background shot, and you've got a >classic compromise situation taking place with the incoming Reagan >Administration. And Alvarez wrote a letter warning Reagan about >this possibility. He wanted to make him AWARE. He expressed his >loyalty as an American -- especially as a Native American. And he >expressed his hopes in what Reagan stood for. Reagan wrote him >back a very short, but very nice letter. And, from the tone of the >letter, it's OBVIOUS that Reagan got Fred's letter and was aware >of the contents of it. And this is stuff that we have in our hands. > >Now, about the same time, Senator [James] Abourezk gave a keynote >speech at one of the many social events that were going on down at >the Cabazon Reservation. And he praised the Tribe's efforts in >helping to secure the release of the [embassy] hostages. I mean, >there were hundreds of people there who heard and saw this. Okay? >Now what is a United States senator doing praising this tribe of >under thirty Indians for their efforts in the international arena, >if there wasn't something going on? Okay? > >Now, you've got to realize that what I say about my direct knowledge >about the transfer of that money, other people are saying is pure >fabrication, and that if I believe it, then I have to be delusional. >That's what they're saying. When I was in Springfield, I was >putting pressure on [former Nixon aide Michael Allen] May to come >forward. The prison authorities recorded those phone conversations. >And they objected. And it's in my report. Not about May, >specifically, but they objected to the number of calls I was making >and the kinds of calls I was making. After May was found dead >(the last time I talked to him was two days before he was found >dead) I was told, [his autopsy revealed drugs in his body], ..... >Well, first of all, they asked me: "What is going on with May? >Were you blackmailing him?" And I said: "WHAT? I mean, I'm >thinking about having the man join my defense team. Either that or >take over as my lead attorney. Why would I be blackmailing somebody >like that?" And they got real cute. I had to find out from >somebody else that the man was dead! And I said: "Well, I think >he's going to be coming out here to see me. Either that, or he's >going to be seeing me immediately when I get back to Seattle." >And they just were cute in their remarks. > >IAN MASTERS: >Well, Michael Riconosciuto, we've only got a couple of minutes >left. I'm about to go live here in a few short minutes. So can you >finally tie up the threads. I mean, you feel that you've been >framed. You were warned by both Videnieks and Brian not to >cooperate with the House Judiciary Committee on the Inslaw >investigation. > >MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO: >Not warned by Brian -- just by Videnieks. > >IAN MASTERS: >And you feel that you've been set up on a drug charge, in effect, >for not playing ball with them. > >MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO: >Oh, absolutely. They got to a point where I supposedly operated >the largest [methamphetamine lab] ever uncovered in the United States. >The E.P.A. came in and they did extensive testing, and they found >no evidence of drug contamination in the water or soil samples. >What they did find was an elevated level of barium; not a hazardous >level, but above normal background levels. Water solutions of barium >oxide were the largest quantity of chemicals that we used there in >processing platinum group metals. And that's an industry standard >to precipitate platinum group metals. So that's consistent with >our side of the story. > >The other point is that analysis of my hair shows that I was not >exposed environmentally to drugs or drug precursors. These are >very strong chemicals. So if you are even near where drugs are >being manufactured, it will show up in your metabolism. And >[word drowned out by Masters's voice] that, on toxicology tests, >they all came out negative. So here's another point that really >makes troublesome the charges that the Government has against me. > >IAN MASTERS: >But just to finally wrap up on Earl Brian -- what specific evidence >do you have that he brokered the October Surprise deal with the >forty million dollars that you cabled to Luxembourg? > >MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO: >Well, I was with him when we had preliminary negotiations ..... > >IAN MASTERS: >In Iran? > >MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO: >And we were discussing how that money could be transferred. >But in those discussions, we never ever talked about that money >being for the delay of [the release of] the hostages. > >You've got to realize that in operations that are compartmentalized, >the people who are actually doing covert things, most of the time, >do not know what they're really doing. There's a cover story. >And they're working very hard, thinking they're doing one thing, >when in fact, their efforts are going for something else. And one >of the signs of a successful operation is how LITTLE the actual >participants can actually talk about, in terms of direct knowledge >of what really went down! > >IAN MASTERS: >Well now, is there any direct knowledge, then? > >MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO: >Well, there was the direct knowledge that I knew who had the money. >And I'm tracing out, for Congressional people, the trail. Now >that's direct knowledge from my standpoint. I made contact with >some of the Iranians. That's direct knowledge on my part. I've >sent a major news team that is in Iran right now getting these >people on camera. > >IAN MASTERS: >That's NIGHTLINE, right? > >MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO: >No. Somebody else. I don't want to say. They're in the country >right now. It's very sensitive, and I don't want to ..... > >IAN MASTERS: >Okay. Well let's talk again. I've got to go now because I've got >to go on the air, and I've got to edit this tape before I go on >the air. So I've got to really fly. Thanks very much for joining >us, Michael Riconosciuto. We'll stay in touch. > >MICHAEL RICONOSCIUTO: >Alright. > ~~ TO BE CONTINUED ~~ >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > If you would like to receive (each weekday) each of the thirty-three- > plus episodes of this 2nd volume of THE SPELLBREAKER, comprising > numerous series, I humbly request 10 cents for each episode, so that > I can subsist while dedicating the many hours of work necessary to > produce THE SPELLBREAKER on a daily basis. The cost of this 2nd > volume is only $3. If you wish, you may mail three one-dollar bills, > along with your e-mail address, to: > > John DiNardo > P.O. Box 164 > Towaco, NJ 07082 > Thank you. > <snip> ======================================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. : Counselor at Law, federal witness email: [address in tool bar] : Eudora Pro 3.0.1 on Intel 586 CPU web site: http://www.supremelaw.com : library & law school registration ship to: c/o 2509 N. 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