Time: Sun May 25 06:35:00 1997 by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA04699; Sun, 25 May 1997 05:41:08 -0700 (MST) by usr10.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA22313; Sun, 25 May 1997 05:41:00 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 06:32:50 -0700 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: SLS: L&J: OKC Questions (fwd) <snip> > > THIRTY QUESTIONS ON OKLAHOMA CITY > > 1. If the bombing of the Alfred E. Murrah Federal building >in Oklahoma City was a terrorist reprisal for the Federal massacre >of the Branch Davidians at Waco, why were no BATF or FBI agents >injured? Why was EVERY BADGE-CARRYING FEDERAL AGENT absent from >work at nine o'clock on a weekday morning and their offices staffed >only with civilian clerical workers? > > 2. When the word first got out that no Federal agents had >been present in the building, the BATF produced its Resident Agent >Alex McCauley who told a long story about his own heroism and that >of a fellow ATF man who allegedly fell three floors in an elevator, >walked away from it, and then helped rescue others trapped by the >bomb. This was quickly exposed as a fabrication in an angry >interview by building maintenance supervisor Duane James, who >described McCauley's story as "pure fantasy". James examined the >elevator in question and also the central control panel and pointed >out a number of technical and logical reasons why the miraculous >elevator incident simply couldn't have happened in the way claimed. >The McCauley account was quietly retracted and flushed down the >memory hole by the ATF, with the help of the media. They now admit >that McCauley was nowhere near the building when the bomb went off, >although they refuse to discuss his exact whereabouts or the >whereabouts of any other ATF agent at the time of the explosion. > Will BATF Agent Alex McCauley be disciplined for telling a >self-serving lie which falsely made himself out to be a hero? If >that was not the purpose, why did he make this palpably false >public statement? > > 3. Why was U.S. Judge Wayne Alley, whose office was located >in the Federal building, warned several weeks in advance in a >Justice Department memo to be prepared for an unnamed "terrorist >act" directed against the Federal building? > > 4. Judge Alley made the above admission to the Portland >OREGONIAN immediately after the bombing. He has since refused to >repeat it or allow himself to be interviewed again. Why? > > 5. Why did Ken Stern of the American Jewish Committee fax >warnings to Federal judges and officials, legislators, and >prosecutors warning of a possible attack on a government building >of installation on the second anniversary of Waco on April 10th, >1995, nine days before the OKC bombing? > > 6. "Norma", a witness who worked in an office building just >down the street from the Federal building, told reporter Sherry >Koonce what she saw prior to the explosion: "The day was fine, >everything was normal when I arrived for work at about 7:45 A.M. >There was some talk about the bomb squad among the employees at our >office. We wondered what it was doing in our parking lot. Around >nine I heard and felt a huge explosion. Then someone said it had to >be a bomb, and we all knew. I remembered the bomb squad in our >parking lot and knew what had happened." > "Norma" has since quit her job, gone into hiding and >refused to speak again to any reporters or investigators. So have >a number of other people who saw the heavily armed and equipped >bomb squad in the area up to three hours before the blast. Why? > > 7. Why has all mention of the facts outlined in questions >1 thru 6 disappeared from the news media after the first week of >coverage of the bombing? Why has the media consistently suppressed >and refused to report any information or evidence which indicates >that, at the very least and regardless of who was responsible, >there was Federal foreknowledge that the bombing would take place? > > 8. By definition, a terrorist must take credit for his >violence, or else there is no compelling reason to commit a crime. >The specific purpose of terrorism is to gain a political end >through the credible threat to commit future acts of violence. No >one has claimed credit for the Oklahoma City bombing. Militia and >right-wing groups, the alleged masterminds and presumed >beneficiaries, have been particularly vehement in denouncing the >explosion and in many cases have cooperated directly with Federal >agencies to absolve themselves of any involvement. The only >statement of alleged political motive we have comes from the very >government which was attacked. Why is this? > > 9. Did the Alfred Murrah building warehouse documents >relating to the attack on the Branch Davidians at Waco? If so, >what happened to those documents? Were they destroyed? If so, were >any copies kept elsewhere? If not, why not? > > 10. Will the missing papers, if any, affect former >Attorney General Ramsey Clark's lawsuit against the ATF and FBI on >behalf of the Branch Davidian survivors? > > 11. Why did the Director of the University of Oklahoma's >Geological Survey, Dr. Charles Mankin, tell the media that >according to two different seismographic records there were TWO >blasts, the second approximately eight seconds after the first? > > 12. The news media initially reported two explosions, based >on eyewitness testimony. Why did this version of events disappear >from print and the air waves within twenty-four hours? > > 13. U.S. government Technical Manual No. 9-1910 from the >Department of the Army and Air Force entitled MILITARY EXPLOSIVES, >which specifies that ANFO, the acronym for Ammonium Nitrate and Fuel >Oil bomb said to be used on the Murrah building, requires a greater >than 99% purity of ammonium nitrate, as well as a specific dryness >before it can be mixed with diesel fuel to create an explosive >substance. The manual further spells out that even under ideal >conditions (not often reached even by experts) 4,800 pounds of ANFO >explosive would create a much smaller crater than the one left in >front of the Murrah building, and its shock wave could not possibly >wield the force necessary to compromise the building's concrete >support. The FBI claims that the ANFO charge was made from 50 bags >of fertilizer. Ammonium nitrate fertilizers comes in much weaker >concentrations than the 99%-plus required for explosives. Creating >concentrated amounts of ammonium nitrate is quite complex, and >would require many bags of fertilizer. In short, according to >the government's own textbook, the Oklahoma City bombing COULD NOT >HAVE HAPPENED IN THE WAY THE FBI SAYS IT HAPPENED. IT IS A PHYSICAL, >CHEMICAL, AND THERMODYNAMIC IMPOSSIBILITY. Why is the FBI lying? > > 14. Retired Air Force Brigadier General Benton K. Partin, >former commander of the Air Force Armament Technology Laboratory, >a 25-year expert in the design and development of bombs, urged >Senators and Congressmen to delay the destruction of the Murrah >building site. Partin stated in a news release, "When I first saw >the picture of the truck bomb's asymmetrical damage to the Federal >building in Oklahoma, my immediate reaction was that the pattern >of damage would have been technically impossible without >supplementary demolition charges at some of the reinforced concrete >bases inside the building, a standard demolition technique. Partin >further explained that "reinforced concrete targets in large >buildings are hard targets to blast. I know of no way possible to >reproduce the apparent building damage through simply a truck bomb >effort." >General Partin's request to have the bomb site preserved in order >to examine the possibility of a second explosion was ignored by >the government. Why? > > 15. General Partin's press release, quoted above, was >reprinted in the John Birch Society magazine NEW AMERICAN. Based >on this the news media launched an egregious and bogus smear >campaign against General Benton K. Partin, claiming falsely that >he was a member of the John Birch Society and therefore a "right- >wing extremist". General Partin has been forced repeatedly to >threaten lawsuits in order to force grudging and deliberately >downplayed retractions and corrections of this allegation. His >alleged JBS membership still appears in print and broadcast media >today as fact even though the media are by now perfectly well >aware that the allegation is false. Why are the news media telling >a deliberate lie in order to discredit a highly respected expert >who questions the official government version of Oklahoma City? > > 16. There have been repeated studies done by a variety of >accredited explosives experts and professional demolition >contractors, such as former FBI agent Ted Gunderson. All of these >have stated their professional opinion that the destruction of the >Murrah building could only have been accomplished with top-grade >military explosives, detonators, and careful placement of multiple >charges. Why have the media ignored these expert opinions? Why, >indeed, have the media engaged in a concerted campaign to abuse, >vilify, discredit and marginalize as a "crank" or a "right-wing >extremist" any explosives expert or engineer who questions the >official FBI version of the bomb's construction and explosive power? > > 17. There is not a single piece of concrete evidence to >connect either Timothy McVeigh or Terry Nichols to any militia or >right-wing group. Why has the news media refused to acknowledge >this fact and continued to spread the patently false assertion >that McVeigh was a member of a militia group? > > 18. Terry Nichols has been married twice, once to a >Mexican woman and once to a Filipina. Obviously, a man who marries >women of color not once but twice and has children with them can >hardly be called a racist. Why has this fact, which clearly >precludes any racist or neo-Nazi involvement in the bombing of the >kind which is repeatedly implied by the media, not been given any >significant exposure at all? > > 19. Having allegedly just committed a coldly calculated, >carefully and meticulously planned mass murder, why did Timothy >McVeigh then suddenly turn into a Clouseau-like klutz and do >everything but send up a flare to draw attention to himself, >speeding out of the state at almost 100 mph in a car without a >license plate, virtually guaranteeing that he would be stopped? > > 20. Timothy McVeigh is a highly trained combat NCO who won >a Bronze Star for courage under fire in the Gulf. Having been >stopped by a state trooper, being armed with a pistol, knowing >that he now faced either execution or imprisonment for the rest of >his natural life, why did McVeigh make no move at all to defend >himself or escape, but instead surrendered like a little lamb? > > 21. FBI agents are said to have tracked down McVeigh's >truck rental agency by finding a vehicle identification number >(VIN) on the truck's rear axle. This axle was found either in the >bomb crater, according to the mayor of Oklahoma City's initial >press statement, or three blocks away according to the later FBI >version. Which statement is true? > > 22. There is another problem to the Ryder truck tale. No >rear axle on any vehicle manufactured in America is imprinted with >a VIN, even after recent legislation forcing manufacturers to place >multiple VINS on the engine, firewall, and frame to discourage chop >shops. When queried, a spokesman for Ryder told reporters than it >does not imprint additional VINS on its trucks. The only conceivable >number available on a rear axle is a part number, but a part number >couldn't lead to the identification of a specific vehicle. We have >here another case where the FBI version of events simply COULD NOT >HAVE HAPPENED in the way the Bureau claims it happened. Where did >the VIN story come from? Why has it been created and circulated by >the media? > > 23. Did McVeigh use fake I.D. or his real I.D. to rent the >truck? The FBI has told both stories. > > 24. The FBI detained and interrogated Timothy McVeigh's >young sister Jennifer and Terry Nichols' twelve year-old son. They >announced in the media that both of them were suspects and that >Jennifer McVeigh was facing indictment and the death penalty. These >charges disappeared from the media and both young people were >released. What is the story here? > > 25. Who is John Doe Number Two? Does he exist at all? The >FBI first conducted a nationwide manhunt for JD-2 over a period of >several weeks. Then they claimed that a U.S. Army soldier on leave, >whose published photographs bear no resemblance whatsoever to the >photofits, was JD-2. Then they claimed for some months that JD-2 >does not exist and all the witnesses who saw him were mistaken. Now >they are hedging again and say they have an "open mind" about >whether John Doe Number Two exists. What is going on here? > > 26. In January of 1996 National Public Radio broadcast a >half-hour special containing interviews with half a dozen witnesses >who personally saw John Doe Number Two in the Ryder truck with >Timothy McVeigh on the morning of the bombing. These witnesses all >had one thing in common; other than a cursory preliminary interview >by the FBI they had up until that time been approached by neither >the prosecution nor the defense to appear as witnesses at the trial. >Why not? Will any witnesses who saw John Doe Number Two be called to >testify? > > 27. In the summer of 1995 a mysterious American named Daniel >Spiegelman was arrested in the Netherlands for trafficking in stolen >diamonds and antiques. In July of 1995 the Janet Reno Justice >Department quietly applied for Spiegelman's extradition to the >United States IN CONNECTION WITH THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING. This was >accompanied by representations at the highest level demanding that >the Netherlands courts hear the case in camera and that the >proceedings be kept completely secret. >Through his attorney Spiegelman fought extradition, a Dutch judge >refused to impose secrecy on the hearing, the media got hold of it, >and Janet Reno allegedly withdrew the extradition request, whereupon >the entire bizarre episode vanished from public view. No more media >blackout in the OKC case has been more complete than the blackout >imposed over the name of Daniel Spiegelman; it is as if he has >stepped off the face of the planet. > Who is Daniel Spiegelman? What connection does he have with >Oklahoma City? Is he John Doe Number Two? Does he know who John Doe >Number Two is? > > 28. FBI informant and star witness Michael Fortier, who >admits to trading his testimony for lenient sentencing on gun >charges himself, claims that he and Timothy McVeigh scouted out the >Murrah building several weeks in advance looking for the BATF >offices therein. If that is true, why did Timothy NcVeigh stop the >Ryder truck at a gas station on the morning of the bombing and ask >directions to the building? And why did he park the truck on the >side of the building the farthest away from the BATF offices, when >there was an available parking lot which would have placed the truck >bomb almost directly under the windows of the BATF even if it was >seven stories up? > > 29. Why was the reaction of the Clinton administration, >blaming right-wing radio talk shows for the incident and demanding >the most draconian police state legislation ever proposed in the >United States, so swift and obviously organized? The air of >orchestration about the whole government response did not escape >notice even at the time, in all the high emotionalism prevalent, >and was commented on by a number of observers all across the >political spectrum. > A blizzard of OKC-related "domestic terrorism" bills were >rushed into Congress in a matter of days, some of them pre-written >and already printed up BEFORE THE BOMBING. These proposed laws >cover everything from banning virtually all privately owned >firearms to unlimited and court-admissible Federal wiretaps to >censorship of the Internet to the suspension of habeas corpus in >"terrorism" cases to the grotesque destruction of the First >Amendment advocated in Charles Schumer's bill H.R. 2580, which >imposes a five-year prison sentence for publicly engaging in >"unseemly speculation" and publishing or transmitting by wire or >electronic means "baseless conspiracy theories regarding the >Federal government of the United States". Who decides what is a >"baseless conspiracy theory'? Why, the very same government, of >course. > How exactly was a normally cumbersome, inefficient, and >glacially slow legislative branch able to move so quickly, so >comprehensively, and so efficiently in introducing these laws >which will strip Americans of what remaining freedoms they have? > > 30. Why did it take so unconscionably long for the trial >of Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols to begin? > > > >- Monte > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Oh Lord, let the fire of your Holy Spirit sweep across this land, > for fallen, fallen is America! Come, Lord, reveal Yourself in > power and holiness to a Church that has forgotten Who You are, > and to a People who have chosen to live in great darkness. > Empower your children to walk in these last days in the fullness > of the knowledge of Your Glory. 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