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Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 14:04:28 -0700
To: Roger Cravens <ke4yqz@mindspring.com>
From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
Subject: Remove My Name
References: <3.0.1.16.19970527130819.367fea5a@pop.primenet.com>
 <3.0.1.32.19970527133259.006f4864@pop.mindspring.com>
 <338A7B45@SmtpOut.em.cdc.gov>

Mister Cravens,

No draw! 

Thousands of American soldiers have died.

You call that a draw?  

I call it genocide.

STOP SENDING ME ANY MORE EMAIL NOW!!!!!

/s/ Paul Mitchell




At 02:08 PM 5/27/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Well Paul, I consider your messages to be as equally adjitating
>and I just received three of yours no thank you very much right 
>out of the blue air!  You requested I leave you alone a long time
>ago and I have done that....now I get three.  
>
>I recommend you practice what you preach (and desire)!
>
>So tell ya what let's do?  I'll remove your name/address, 
>and you remove my name/address (both at work _AND_ at home!)
>and we'll call it a draw!
>
>Fair enough?
>
>Roger
>--------------------------------------------------
>
>>Mr. Cravens,
>>
>>I regard messages like this, and
>>your multitude of other messages,
>>to be unwanted.  So, please take
>>me off ALL of your lists, permanently.
>>
>>See Senator Reigle's testimony,
>>for corroboration.  You might also
>>contact Joyce Riley, for a first-hand
>>account of genocide.
>>
>>I now rank the CDC somewhere below the
>>deepest sewer.  Sorry, but that is
>>the truth about my opinion.
>>
>>You are entitled to yours;  
>>I am entitled to mine.
>>
>>Thank you, and goodbye.
>>
>>
>>/s/ Paul Mitchell
>>
>>copy:  Supreme Law School (witnesses)
>>
>>
>>
>>At 01:32 PM 5/27/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>>Get a grip Paul!  You're about to fall off the ledge of the cliff
>>>(again!).
>>>
>>>Roger Cravens
>>>Atlanta, GA
>>>ke4yqz@mindspring.com
>>>
>>>[Nice address, huh?]
>>>--------------------------------------------------------------
>>>At 10:06 AM 5/27/97 EST, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------
>>>>From: Paul Andrew Mitchell
>>>>To: rbg3
>>>>Subject: Cravens at CDC
>>>>Date: Saturday, May 24, 1997 1:20AM
>>>>
>>>>Roger:
>>>>
>>>>I got this from that idiot Mitchell; I don't plan to answer him.
>>>>He hasn't changed his tune.
>>>>
>>>>Bill
>>>>
>>>>==================================================================
>>>>
>>>>Dear Bill,
>>>>
>>>>Ask Mr. Cravens by what authority he was
>>>>utilizing computers at the Centers for
>>>>Disease Control to screen and forward
>>>>email on "patriot" topics, upwards of
>>>>4 hours per day.  Inquire of him also
>>>>as to any prior knowledge he had, or did not
>>>>have, of CDC's complicity in the inoculation
>>>>of anthrax-tainted serum into American
>>>>soldiers bound for the Gulf War.  See
>>>>Senator Don Reigle's testimony before
>>>>Congressional committee on this subject,
>>>>for substantiation of CDC's prior knowledge.
>>>>
>>>>/s/ Paul Mitchell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>At 10:24 AM 5/23/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>>>>Reposting, faxing, copying, and any and all methods of
>>>>>distributing this message are encouraged (as always).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>At 08:06 AM 5/23/97 EST, Roger Cravens wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>As much as I despise the idea of blowing up a federal
>>>>>>building to make a point, McVeigh has very keen insight
>>>>>>into the exact problems facing the population of this
>>>>>>country.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Until the entire Congress gets the idea that this
>>>>>>country has come almost full circle back to where
>>>>>>it began with a profoundly repressive and
>>>>>>arrogant government that is currently totally out
>>>>>>of control, these types of incidents will most likely
>>>>>>continue and the Feds (for the most part) will be
>>>>>>absolutely powerless to stop it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Up to this point, Roger, I concur 100%.  Then you write the
>>>>>following:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>The thing that has me amazed is that such civil
>>>>>>disobediance/terrorism took so long to surface.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I think your meaning was "The thing that has me amazed is that
>>>>>such terrorism took so long to surface."  I would also agree with
>>>>>that.
>>>>>
>>>>>What I take exception to is your combining civil disobedience with
>>>>>terrorism as if they were the same.  This makes about as much
>>>>>sense as writing militia/terrorism, Christian activism/terrorism,
>>>>>or Girl Scouts/terrorism.
>>>>>
>>>>>Civil disobedience is when a group stands up and says "We will not
>>>>>comply with these unlawful, unconstitutional statutes which
>>>>>pretend to be laws.  We intend to restore limited, Constitutional
>>>>>government through the means of not submitting to nor cooperating
>>>>>with unconstitutional statutes.  Government terrorism will not
>>>>>sway us from our righteous course.  There are far more patriotic
>>>>>citizens than there are government employees who are willing to
>>>>>attempt to enforce unconstitutional statutes.  We will overcome
>>>>>government oppression and we will restore our beloved
>>>>>Constitutional Republic, so help us God!"
>>>>>
>>>>>This kind of non-violent, not passive, resistance to unlawful
>>>>>actions by government calls for extreme courage on the part of
>>>>>patriots.  Civil disobedience calls for the kind of courage to
>>>>>stand unarmed and face a tank (as seen in China).  This is what is
>>>>>required to stop the loss of our Liberty and the infringement of
>>>>>our Rights which are protected by the Constitution and should be
>>>>>protected by all government employees who honor their oath to
>>>>>support and defend our United States Constitution.
>>>>>
>>>>>Let us keep in mind that our goal is to restore limited,
>>>>>Constitutional government to our nation and our states.  Let us
>>>>>hold up our United States Constitution (and state constitutions,
>>>>>as appropriate) as our authority to limit government and as the
>>>>>document which protects (not grants) our rights.  Let us proclaim
>>>>>that it is our intention to restore limited, Constitutional
>>>>>government by non-violent means.  We want to utilize the Ballot
>>>>>Box and the Jury Box and keep the Ammo Box in reserve.  To utilize
>>>>>the ballot box we must stop the secret computer manipulation of
>>>>>voting totals and educate the public not to vote for career
>>>>>politicians who have repeatedly violated their oath to support and
>>>>>defend our constitutions.  To utilize the Jury Box we must educate
>>>>>the public to become fully informed jurors (call 1-800-TEL-JURY).
>>>>>To have an Ammo Box to keep in reserve we must continue to form
>>>>>militia units, the more public the better (and the more public the
>>>>>more lawful - all governmental authority comes from the people and
>>>>>a militia unit formed by inviting the participation and the vote
>>>>>of all the people in a county is unquestionably lawful).
>>>>>
>>>>>For a shining example of non-violent (not passive) effort that
>>>>>changed a mighty government, look to India and the story of
>>>>>Gandhi.  We draw our strength from God and most of us base our
>>>>>lives on our spiritual understandings.  Let us remember that all
>>>>>people have the right to honor God in the manner they understand
>>>>>to be most appropriate.  Let us also remember that Liberty means
>>>>>that some people will have the right to believe and to do things
>>>>>of which we do not approve.  So long as no one infringes on the
>>>>>rights of another, we will just have to accept that people have
>>>>>the right to be different.  Let us strive to keep our personal
>>>>>religions to ourselves and keep other divisive beliefs out of our
>>>>>efforts to restore limited, Constitutional government.
>>>>>
>>>>>We do not want freedom in our country.  Freedom ends up with the
>>>>>stronger imposing their views on the weaker.  We want Liberty in
>>>>>our country, which is personal freedom which stops just short of
>>>>>infringing on another's rights.  We do not want democracy in our
>>>>>country.  Democracy is two wolves and one sheep deciding what to
>>>>>eat for lunch.  We want to fully restore our limited,
>>>>>democratically elected, Constitutional Republic.  The rights of
>>>>>minorities are protected in our Constitutional Republic, unlike in
>>>>>a true democracy.
>>>>>
>>>>>Please do not confuse civil disobedience with terrorism.  Civil
>>>>>disobedience is what patriots do.  Terrorism is what
>>>>>unconstitutional government and some criminal radicals do.
>>>>>
>>>>>for Liberty,
>>>>>Bill Utterback
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>butterb@connecti.com                  (backup: butterb597@aol.com)
>>>>>
>>>>>"It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from
>>>>>falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the
>>>>>Government from falling into error."
>>>>>U.S. Supreme Court in American Communications Association v. Douds,
>>>>>339 U.S. 382,442
>>>>>
>>>>>World's Smallest Political Quiz: http://www.self-gov.org/quiz.html
>>>>>
>>>>>Libertarian Party: http://www.rahul.net/lp/
>>>>>
>>>>>Fully Informed Jury Association: http://www.fija.org/
>>>>>http://www.primenet.com/~slack/fija/fija.html
>>>>>
>>>>>Gun Owners of America: http://www.gunowners.org/
>>>>>
>>>>>Police Against the New World Order:
>>>>>http://www.police-against-nwo.com/index.htm
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>========================================================================
>>>>Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S.    : Counselor at Law, federal witness
>>>>email:       [address in tool bar]   : Eudora Pro 3.0.1 on Intel 586 CPU
>>>>web site:  http://www.supremelaw.com : library & law school registration
>>>>ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech,  at its best
>>>>             Tucson, Arizona state   : state zone,  not the federal zone
>>>>             Postal Zone 85719/tdc   : USPS delays first class  w/o this
>>>>========================================================================
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>|  "Liberty is NEVER an option ... only a condition to be lost!"
>>>|----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>|  Roger Cravens
>>>|  South East Signals Intelligence Group BBS
>>>|  Atlanta, GA
>>>|  Specializing in Federal Frequencies
>>>|  (770-) 942-1089
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>
>>========================================================================
>>Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S.    : Counselor at Law, federal witness
>>email:       [address in tool bar]   : Eudora Pro 3.0.1 on Intel 586 CPU
>>web site:  http://www.supremelaw.com : library & law school registration
>>ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech,  at its best
>>             Tucson, Arizona state   : state zone,  not the federal zone
>>             Postal Zone 85719/tdc   : USPS delays first class  w/o this
>>========================================================================
>>
>>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>|  "Liberty is NEVER an option ... only a condition to be lost!"
>|----------------------------------------------------------------
>|  Roger Cravens
>|  South East Signals Intelligence Group BBS
>|  Atlanta, GA
>|  Specializing in Federal Frequencies
>|  (770-) 942-1089
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>

========================================================================
Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S.    : Counselor at Law, federal witness
email:       [address in tool bar]   : Eudora Pro 3.0.1 on Intel 586 CPU
web site:  http://www.supremelaw.com : library & law school registration
ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech,  at its best
             Tucson, Arizona state   : state zone,  not the federal zone
             Postal Zone 85719/tdc   : USPS delays first class  w/o this
========================================================================


      


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