Time: Sat Nov 02 09:54:22 1996
To: bigred@duracef.shout.net
From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
Subject: What do Rep. Dornan, Impeachment and Congress Sine Die adjournment , , , have in common? Something big is going on??? (fwd)
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>This may be a long shot (see text below) but it is an interesting
>question. The gist of the argument below, as I read it, is that
>the Congress has adjourned *sine die*, which is a rare occurrence
>(apparently the last time that happened was ca. 1860.) Apparently
>this allows the *current* Congress to reconvene anytime between
>now and when the new Congress is sworn in in January. There may
>be a mundane explanation for this situation, then again.......
... they are leaving open the possibility
they will need to commence impeachment
proceedings prior to the inauguration.
That is my hypothesis. Is it yours too?
/s/ Paul Mitchell
P.S. Does Tierra del Fuego have an
extradition treaty with the United States?
"George, meet Tierra."
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>> FOLLOW THE MONEY AND LOOK AT THE NOSE
>> Rep. Bob Dornan (R-CA)
>> House of Representatives - September 26, 1996
>>
>>[Rep. Bob Dornan held a total of three one-hour special orders
>>last week focusing on the President and his talk of pardons to
>>convicted Whitewater associates. In the present speech he
>>describes his papers of impeachment and reads from Roger Morris
>>and Ambrose Evans-Pritchard]
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>But he will get his day in court. I was going to remind him that
>>Paula Corbin Jones had her day in court and he will have his day
>>in court because I am filing impeachment papers. I have got
>>lawyers working on them and have been for about 5 or 6 months,
>>and this may be the crowning issue, this may be the straw on the
>>camel's back, telegraphing pardon messages to people. It is
>>unbelievable.
>>
>>When you see somebody with a big red bulbous nose and doctors
>>tell me it is not allergies; that makes your eyes water. The nose
>>only swells from alcohol or from tearing up your nasal passages
>>with cocaine. When you see that, you will know that that is a
>>person who has caused--Nancy Reagan had it right, just say no--
>>who has caused a thousand young police officers to be killed in
>>Colombia in the last year, calendar year 1995. This year we are
>>running ahead of a thousand young men.
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>But only in this Congress, the 104th Congress, was the office of
>>the President and the office of the Vice President put under the
>>rules, thereby damaging the separation of powers. I can assure
>>you after I file charges of impeachment, articles of impeachment,
>>and I can do it from zero to 1,000, after that, I will move when
>>we reassemble, God willing I am back and you are back, I will
>>demand in our rules from our leadership to finally show the guts
>>to go back to the way this existed for over 200 years, and have
>>this separation of powers so that the offices of the President
>>and the Vice President are no longer included in our rule XVIII
>>that demands civility between ourselves.
>
> http://TeamInfinity.com/urls.html
>
>Does Congress know something we don't?
>
>>>Date: Thu, 31 Oct 96 10:44:01 EST
>>>From: Scott_D._Ploehn@glfn.org (Scott D. Ploehn)
>>>Subject: Fwd: SINE DIE
>>>
>>>
>>>What's up with this?
>>>
>>>> More News from our Congress What's Going On Here???
>>>>
>>>> Some interesting information came to my attention.
>>>> Evidently the 104th Congress adjourned "sine die" this month.
>>>> Now, if anyone out there is like me, they're wondering just
>>>> what "sine die" means and why it is significant. The
>>>> significance arises when we take a look at history and
>>>> discover that the last (and most recent) time that this was
>>>> done was just before the Civil War after which Lincoln
>>>> declared war without a sitting Congress. To further arouse my
>>>> curiosity, Black's Law Dictionary, 4th Ed. defines "sine die"
>>>> as without day, without assigning a day for a further meeting
>>>> or hearing. Hence, a final adjournment: final dismissal of a
>>>> cause..."
>>>>
>>>> The mystery deepens even more when you consider the
>>>> following excerpts from the Congressional Record.
>>>>
>>>> (1) CONDITIONAL ADJOURNMENT SINE DIE
>>>> (Senate - October 03, 1996)
>>>>
>>>> Mr. LOTT. Mr. President, if there is no further
>>>> business to come before the Senate, I now move that the
>>>> Senate stand in adjournment sine die under the provisions of
>>>> House Concurrent Resolution 230, or until 6 p.m., Friday,
>>>> October 4, if the House fails to adopt House Concurrent
>>>> Resolution 230. And God be with you all.
>>>>
>>>> The motion was agreed to, and at 6:54pm, the Senate
>>>> adjourned sine die, conditioned on the House concurrence,
>>>> in the Senate amendment to House Concurrent Resolution 230.
>>>> (2) From the Congressional Record of October 4, 1996.
>>>> H12300: "SINE DIE ADJOURNMENT"
>>>>
>>>> Mr. MYERS of Indiana. Mr. Speaker, the work of
>>>> the 2nd session of the 104th Congress has been completed.
>>>> Pursuant to House Concurrent Resolution 230, as amended, I
>>>> move that the House do now adjourn. The SPEAKER pro tempore
>>>> (Mr. WALKER). In accordance with the provisions of House
>>>> Concurrent Resolution 230, as amended, the Chair declares the
>>>> 2d session of the 104th Congress adjourned sine die.
>>>>
>>>> Thereupon (at 2 o'clock and 52 minutes p.m.) pursuant
>>>> to House Concurrent Resolution 230, as amended, the House
>>>> adjourned. Many will now ask, (as did I) "What is House
>>>> Concurrent Resolution 230? The text is as follows.
>>>>
>>>> H.Con. Res. 230 Agreed to October 4, 1996
>>>>
>>>> One Hundred Fourth Congress of the United States of America
>>>> AT THE SECOND SESSION Begun and held at the City of
>>>> Washington on Wednesday the third day of January, one
>>>> thousand nine hundred and ninety-six. Concurrent Resolution
>>>> Providing for the sine die adjournment or the second session
>>>> of the One Hundred Fourth Congress.
>>>>
>>>> Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring),
>>>> that when the House adjourns on the legislative day of
>>>> Wednesday, October 2, 1996, Thursday, October 8, 1998, or
>>>> Friday, October 4, 1996, on a motion offered pursuant to
>>>> this concurrent resolution by the Majority Leader, or his
>>>> designee, it stand adjourned sine die, or until noon on
>>>> the second day after Members are notified to reassemble
>>>> pursuant to section 2 of this concurrent resolution, and
>>>> that when the Senate adjourns on Wednesday, October 2, 1996,
>>>> Thursday, October 3, 1996, or Friday, October 4, 1996, on a
>>>> motion offered pursuant to this concurrent resolution by the
>>>> Majority Leader, or his designee, it stand adjourned sine die,
>>>> or until noon on the second day after members are notified to
>>>> reassemble pursuant to section 2 of this concurrent resolution.
>>>>
>>>> Sec. 2. The Speaker of the House and the Majority Leader of the Senate,
>>>> acting jointly after consultation with the Minority Leader of
>>>> the House and the Minority Leader of the Senate, shall notify
>>>> the Members of the House and Senate, respectively, to
>>>> reassemble whenever, in their opinion, the public interest
>>>> shall warrant it.
>>>
>>>>It appears that H. Con Res. 230 gives
>>>> Congress the option of reconvening the 104th Congress (not
>>>> the 105th that will be elected next month) whenever they feel
>>>> it is necessary. Without this resolution, the sine die
>>>> adjournment would have been a permanent adjournment of the
>>>> 104th Congress. Since I have been able to find no reference,
>>>> in history, to this having been done before, I can only
>>>> wonder why it was done this time. I don't have the answers so
>>>> maybe we should be asking the Members of Congress.
>>>>
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