Time: Mon Nov 11 14:46:37 1996
To: ChrisX Wilder <ChrisX_Wilder@ccm.sc.intel.com>
From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
Subject: Re: Thank you Veterans!
Cc: 
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>From: tab@hollyent.com
>Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:35:40 -0700 
>Subject: Re: Thank you Veterans!
>To: pmitch@primenet.com
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>     Distributed on: 11-NOV-96, 11:35:38
>Original Written by: IN:haire@azstarnet.com.
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>
>I was a tanker in Germany when I went to Viet Nam.
>
>When I landed in Viet Nam I found myself in a infantry company.Understand I
>had trained with M-14 in basic , then qualified with the m-1911 and the
>Grease Gun .(M-4?) What i'm trying to say is that in Viet Nam I was issued a
>M-16 without any training . I tried out my brand new very clean M-16. Got
>two rounds off before the first jam. Next round jammed as did about every
>third.I took it back and asked "Ya got something else?". I was given a M-79
>Grenade Launcher and a trusty old M-1911 complete with a shot out barrel.
>Both worked fine.
>
>My point is this was 1966 , the M-16 was BAD !How many of our lives would
>have been saved by using the trusty M-14 ? How much money changed hands with
>the switch to the M-16 ?
>
>Sure makes ya proud !
>
>
>Thanks Paul
>
>
>
>>Dear Harry,
>>
>>When I was a political science intern
>>in Washington, D.C., during the summer
>>of 1969, I was able to spend some time
>>at the Pentagon public library, 
>>investigating Pentagon weapons mistakes
>>since World War II.  One of the more
>>significant mistakes I found was the
>>Sheridan tank (I believe).  This tank
>>was designed to ride low to the ground,
>>and the cannons were unique for using
>>combustible cartridges.  This meant
>>that the main cannon did not eject
>>a brass cartridge after firing;  the
>>whole thing blew out the end of the
>>barrel, cartridge and all.
>>
>>There was a small "problem," however.
>>The cartridge material was highly
>>combustible (had to be), and some of
>>it failed to blow out the barrel.
>>When crews re-opened the breach,
>>to re-load, this flaming torch came
>>blowing back into the crew compartment,
>>burning hand and faces, and also igniting
>>other shells on the floor of the tank.
>>This, of course, caused the tank to 
>>blow into a million pieces, and the
>>crews with it.
>>
>>The Pentagon had put this tank into
>>service before the bugs were worked out,
>>it seems, and they also failed to provide
>>the crews with instruction manuals to
>>deal with these "problems."  When the
>>instruction manual finally did arrive,
>>it contained directions for enclosing
>>the unfired rounds in rubber bags, 
>>complete with their own zippers.  Now,
>>what is the one thing that every zipper
>>always does?  You got it:  they stick.
>>So, you find yourself in an intense 
>>firefight, and the zipper is stuck.
>>
>>What now, Robert MacNamara?
>>
>>To make matters worse, the low profile
>>of the tank motivated the designers to
>>put the engine radiator in the floor
>>of the frame, pointing downwards, 
>>parallel to the ground.  This position
>>caused radiators to entrain brush and
>>vegetation, blocking the air flow, and
>>causing engines to overheat and fail.
>>When the famous "instruction manual"
>>arrived, it contained a directive to
>>stop the tank every 15 minutes, exit
>>the tank, reach under the tank, between
>>the tread wheels, and remove any brush
>>or vegetation which had accumulated there.
>>
>>So, now, picture this firefight.
>>You are firing like mad to protect
>>yourself, or your buddies in the 
>>neighboring Sheridan, and the zippers
>>are getting stuck.  To make matters
>>worse, your fifteen minutes are up,
>>so now you need to poke your head out
>>of the turret, hold up your hands
>>like a basketball referee, and shout,
>>"TIME OUT!!"  Whereupon, you will
>>climb under the tank, while the enemy
>>is looking the other way, or taking
>>a cigarette break, and remove all the
>>brush and vegetation which are about
>>to cook your 2,500 horsepower supercharged
>>diesel into so much scrap iron.
>>
>>Robert MacNamara, are you listening?
>>
>>Hello, Robert, is anybody home?
>>
>>Time in.
>>
>"Either the law means what it says, or it doesn't. There can't be two sets
>of rules: One for the People, and one for the government. It was
>unacceptable to the Founding Fathers, and it should be equally
>unacceptable to all Americans today."
>                            Phil Murphy
>
>
>If Hillary Clinton is so concerned about the poor, why doesn't she teach
>them to trade futures?
>               Unk.
>
>
>
>
>   "All dictatorships restrict or prohibit the honest citizen's access to
>modern arms. Anywhere this right is not restricted, you will find a free
>country."
>   "There is a name for a society where only the police have guns. It is
>called a police state. The Second Amendment in the Bill of Rights is not
>about duck hunting, any more then the First Amendment is about playing
>Scrabble. The entire Bill of Rights is about individual freedom."
>
>                    Henry Bowman
>                    Oct. 10 1992
>                    page 490
>                    Unintended Consequences
>                    by John Ross
>
>
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