Time: Wed Nov 13 05:47:20 1996
To: Richard Ginn
From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
Subject: Re: LLAW: Richard Ginn, applicant
Cc: 
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>Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 07:08:58 -0500
>To: <libertylaw@www.ultimate.org>
>From: Dave Warwick <davew@lor.jrent.com>
>Subject: Re: LLAW: Richard Ginn, applicant
>
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>LIBERTY LAW - CROSS THE BAR & MAKE YOUR PLEA - FIRST VIRTUAL COURT, USA
>Presiding JOP: Tom Clark, Constable: Robert Happy, Clerk: Kerry Rushing
>=======================================================================
>By all means, Welcome to our brother in Christ, Richard Ginn!
>
>
>
>At 08:23 PM 11/12/96, you wrote:
>>=======================================================================
>>LIBERTY LAW - CROSS THE BAR & MAKE YOUR PLEA - FIRST VIRTUAL COURT, USA
>>Presiding JOP: Tom Clark, Constable: Robert Happy, Clerk: Kerry Rushing
>>=======================================================================
>>Dear Liberty Law,
>>
>>I wish to sponsor Richard Ginn to
>>the Liberty Law email list.
>>
>>Richard and I met when he responded
>>to one of my broadcasts, and we
>>quickly discovered lots of common
>>interests.
>>
>>He then helped me extensively with 
>>the White House Constitution, which
>>we obtained from the President's
>>Assistant Counsel, in response to a
>>FOIA request.
>>
>>Richard and I were able to divide up
>>the labor with great ease, and he
>>did follow through promptly, and
>>with great ease.  He is very familiar
>>with Pretty Good Privacy (PGP), and
>>he encrypted the White House Constitution
>>to guarantee integrity before making
>>it available generally to the Internet.
>>
>>Since then, he has asked me to help
>>develop a private email list to 
>>discuss some important legal research
>>which he is currently doing.  Without
>>going into details, I can say that
>>it is something which Liberty Law
>>would do very well to consider.  I will
>>leave it to Richard to fill in the
>>rest of the details.  I can forward to
>>you a summary, if he will provide it
>>to me here.
>>
>>Richard, are you listening?
>>
>>My only condition here is that we admit
>>Richard, and begin to grapple with the
>>major questions he will bring to the list,
>>by raising our standards of discourse a 
>>little bit higher than they have been
>>heretofore.
>>
>>"Contention before Substance" is a
>>recent criticism of our style, and we
>>will do well to take that criticism to
>>heart.  I believe it is well deserved.
>>
>>So, I wish to request that we admit 
>>Richard, and discuss his issues, but
>>only on condition that we do so with
>>the highest level of discourse possible.
>>This means no ad hominems, at the very
>>least, okay?
>>
>>Tom Clark, take it away.
>>
>>/s/ Paul Mitchell 
>>
>>Copy:  Richard Ginn
>>
>>
>>At 06:32 PM 11/12/96 -0500, you wrote:
>>>Paul,
>>>
>>>Thankyou for offering to sponsor me to the libertylaw mailing list, I 
>>>would like to join to see what it is about, and to ask if the other list 
>>>members would be interested in carrying the conversation I am having with 
>>>a few other people regarding the matter of constitutional jurisdiction 
>>>and its application to ending the war on drugs, traffic courts, and other 
>>>abuses.
>>>
>>>There are 2 other main people who are interested in having me start a 
>>>list for this purpose, but we could also hold the conversation on llaw if 
>>>that works for everyone.
>>>
>>>We plan to cover theory and practice, and also the origins of the problem 
>>>back to the Titles of Nobility Amendment (rediscovered by one of the 2 
>>>who want to start a list with me).
>>>
>>>What do you think?  If we start a separate list I would like to invite 
>>>you to join us, if we join llaw we may have either a bigger audience 
>>>(participating) or more people just listening...
>>>
>>>Richard.
>>>
>>>
>>
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>>Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:08:01 -0700 (MST)
>>To: <libertylaw@www.ultimate.org>
>>From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
>>Subject: LLAW: Richard Ginn, applicant
>>Cc: Richard Ginn <ginn@cornell.edu>
>>
>>
>	God Bless America!
>				Dave in Tulsa
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