Time: Wed Jun 18 20:24:38 1997 by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA27551; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 20:25:12 -0700 (MST) by usr04.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA23028; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 20:24:55 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 20:23:22 -0700 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: SLS: Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure References: <3.0.2.16.19970618171942.3437a1e2@pop.primenet.com> At 06:31 PM 6/18/97 -0700, you wrote: >> 28 U.S.C. 2072. Rules of procedure and evidence; >> power to prescribe >> >> On the subject of rules, don't miss 28 U.S.C. 2072, >> which grants authority to the U.S. Supreme Court >> to promulgate rules for the USDC, but fails to >> mention the DCUS. I conclude, therefore, that >> the U.S. Supreme Court has no authority to >> promulgate rules for the DCUS, because that >> court is just not mentioned in 2072! And this >> section embraces both civil and criminal >> rules, and rules of evidence, because it mentions >> "practice, procedure, and evidence". So, now the >> SC can promulgate rules of criminal procedure, >> but only for the USDC, but the USDC has no >> criminal jurisdiction whatsoever. >> >> Go figure! >> >> See 18 U.S.C. 3231 for proof of that statement. >> >> WOW!! >> >> What's your construction? > >Okay, now wait a second. The Supreme Court of the United States is an >Art. III court, correct? It is a Supreme Court for the continental >United States. It is the Supreme Court for the entire country, state and federal zones, because the Constitution created only "one supreme Court". Remember? /s/ Paul Mitchell http://www.supremelaw.com As such, why would it have any authority to tell the >courts in a United States Territory what to do? Article IV, Section 3, Clause 2: Congress delegated this authority to the SC, to create rules of practice, procedure, and evidence in those courts. It would not, unless >Congress said they would _allow_ it to, and that is what 28 U.S.C. 2072 >is doing. Yes! You have it. 28 U.S.C. 2072 is, evidently, enacted pursuant to 4:3:2, namely, to "make all needed Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States ...." The USDC is a territorial court, pursuant to American Insurance v. 356 Bales of Cotton (John Marshall's brilliant tract on the subject). This is the clause which most Patriots ignore at their great peril. Are you a Property belonging to the United States? If Congress thrust the whole nation into a secret bankruptcy in 1933, and then gave the foreign banks a lien on all American assets, as collateral for their debt, then you may be regarded as "Property belonging to the United States," no? /s/ Paul Mitchell http://www.supremelaw.com > >I went and looked at 18 U.S.C. 3231 which said Art. III courts shall >have original jurisdiction over all offenses against the laws of the >United States, exclusive of the territory tribunals. It then added that >no part of Title 18 was to limit the power of territory tribunals. How >is this proof that USDC has no criminal jurisdiction? Confer at "Inclusio unius est exclusio alterius" in Black's Law Dictionary. The USDC is not mentioned, therefore, its omission can be inferred as intentional. The USDC has no criminal jurisdiction whatsoever, because it is not mentioned in 18 U.S.C. 3231. Now, can you find a statute which grants criminal jurisdiction to the USDC? Ball is in your court now :) /s/ Paul Mitchell http://www.supremelaw.com > >> Remember the Wizard of Oz? The "Oz" is a metaphor >> for the abbreviation we all use for "ounce". The >> wizard of gold is a little man behind the curtain, >> pulling strings to make his calliope whistle and >> toot. >> >> Toot! Toot!! Whew! Whew!! > >Hehehe. Nice play on words. > >> /s/ Paul Mitchell ======================================================================== Paul Andrew Mitchell : Counselor at Law, federal witness B.A., Political Science, UCLA; M.S., Public Administration, U.C. Irvine tel: (520) 320-1514: machine; fax: (520) 320-1256: 24-hour/day-night email: [address in tool bar] : using Eudora Pro 3.0.2 on 586 CPU website: http://www.supremelaw.com : visit the Supreme Law Library now ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech, at its best Tucson, Arizona state : state zone, not the federal zone Postal Zone 85719/tdc : USPS delays first class w/o this As agents of the Most High, we came here to establish justice. We shall not leave, until our mission is accomplished and justice reigns eternal. ======================================================================== [This text formatted on-screen in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.]
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