Re: Deeds REPONSE-Any experiences with Allodials?

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Posted by Ann on August 27, 1997 at 14:16:46:

In Reply to: Re: Deeds REPONSE posted by Two Cities on August 26, 1997 at 13:09:52:

: :
: : Hope nobody minds my deleting the original question for expediency:
: : 1) If you provide your e-mail address, I'll e-mail
: : you directly with the name of a fella out west
: : that deals with this type of info..he's super
: : busy but knows about all the de factor vs de jure
: : instruments dealing with "property."I hesitate
: : to put his phone number/address out on inet w/o
: : his permission, etc.

: : Also: Surely some of these groups that deal
: : with allodials/land patents and such would probably
: : know. Search on these topics and some of these
: : groups are bound to come up.

: : Ann

: The search was informative. Thanks.
: Municipalities are perhaps raising the land patent
: issues at time of incorporation, and at all times
: subsequent in the event of annexations, thereby
: establishing their PARAMOUNT interest in the land
: under their "jurisdiction".Any additional pointers
: are always welcome. A YES vote in an annexation
: election, is perhaps akin to a feudal oath of fealty.
: Does anyone know.

: Property transfers that do not transfer the interest in
: the land patent, such as warranty deeds, deeds of trust or
: other instruments may only transfer the illusion of
: color of title, keeping the patent holder as the
: true owner, and entitled to his fief.


Good info on deeds..agrees with concepts of what I have also read on this topic.
The real question is: Does anybody have first-hand experience with actuallly filing
a land patent/allodial deed on their property and having it be "effective" with
the local taxing authorities? I've not heard of suceess story in Texas, although heard
(stories) in another state who supposedly got a "you're exempt" letter back from them...
wish I had kept details but cannot confirm.
My supposition is that it (may) help/at least delay with the "land grab", by "biospheres"
and "Heritage Rivers", etc. (per a land patent researcher I know)etc.

FYI: Just talked with a fella the other day (here in Texas) whose land had NOT been "rendered"
but they found him anyway and put a lien on his property for not paying property taxes. He's
trying to work on obtaining allodial deed, etc. Any success stories..please tell us.
Obviously, my personal belief is that property taxes are the worse of all taxes, since
regardless of what "net profit" or "income" you have, or you citizenship status, so
those property taxes keep going up and up,and have nothing whatsoever to do with your
WHat's youre experiences..let us know...I'll share my experience
when I have them..good or bad.

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